Selles has done one…

What @Drew said about there being no connection between supporters on the one hand and coaches, players and other club staff on the other was spot on, in my opinion.

There’s been no continuity under Acun. It’s not One Family, One Dream. It’s just been a nightmare. We’ve had six head coaches in three years and **** loads of players, many of whom have been bought and sold within 12 months. It’s pathetic.

It’s hard to be passionate and enthusiastic about the personnel and club as a whole when the head coaches and players aren’t given time to form any sort of rapport with supporters. Rosenior, for his faults, was popular. He ****ed him off after 18 months. Supporters warm to Sellés and there’s a broad consensus he should be given the start of next season. He ****s him off after 6 months. Pandur’s probably one of the few fan favourites and I bet he sells him this summer.

So we will start next season with another stranger as head coach and a squad that is probably quite bitter about their previous boss, who they liked and respected, being unceremoniously sacked, just like the start of last season.

 

Outside of the parachute teams

Coventry and sunderland are the benchmarks for championship clubs going forward

Theyve had a core of a squad over a few seasons now
With some important changes here and there

We are changing 80% of the team every summer aswell as the coaching staff
What route to success is there?

Unless you have prem money
You have to be a slow burner like those clubs

But i guess his mate at forest got insanely lucky so thats the route we are down
Which clearly hasnt and wont work

And how much debt will the club be in when acun does leave?
Hes not paying out of his own pocket

 

I think he will come out with the fact that if it was not for Luton getting thumped by West Brom (thank you West Brom) we would have been relegated.

 

Something that's bothered me for a while - Selles has a lot of similarities with Rosenior. They're both clearly very intelligent and thoughtful people. They seem to consider every detail. They look after their players and seem to command a lot of respect from them. Ultimately, they seem like good people, good leaders and competent at managing a group and a club.

What bothers me is that this doesn't get recognised enough. People don't talk much about these qualities, few people seem to care about them. The debate is always about whether they played the right formation, right tactics or made the right subs; all things which can't easily be measured but a biased mind can easily assess to be wrong. Their results are always scrutinised, which is right to an extent, but the circumstances they worked within are rarely acknowledged. People seem to expect brilliant results without allowing for the factors out of their control which affect those results, results which an ever-growing list of managers failing to achieve suggests are never realistic.

I wish people, most of all Acun, valued the observable competencies and qualities of managers more instead of focusing on easy complaints like tactics which will exist whoever the manager is. I think it's over-simplified, juvenile thinking. To an extent, it's a reflection of wider society, where shouting loudly and promising the world is more popular than being competent and thoughtful and being a good person. It's the "we've had enough of experts" thing but in football.

 

But when it's over a full season you can't pick out one thing as the reason we didn't go down

If it wasn't for the dodgy penalty for Egan getting hit in the face...

 

Theyll both end up in better jobs and better off which shows the right people do notice it

Its a problem with acun unfortunately

Fans will always be more short sighted, its the nature of it
Fans just dont spend 50 hours a week with the players and staff etc

 

SO.........has there been any official confirmation on Selles yet?

 

Hilarious to witness Kalman and Brady being over dramatic as usual.

Acun is interested in one thing only. Premier League. That’s the only outcome that improves his brand.

But he hasn’t got the finances to bankroll an automatic promotion so he has to find a manager who can give us a fighting chance with a mid-level budget.

Thats the only sense the Tim Walter appointment made as he sold himself as bringing something different.

Clearly that didn’t work out but I’m assuming he’s had enough time with Selles to decide he’s not the guy to get us promoted.

I will reserve my judgement until the new Manager is appointed. But let’s be frank, the football under Rosenior, Walter and Selles has been ****ing dire especially at home.

 

A bloke in front me sang 'Ruben Selles away away'. He must have known something we didnt.

 

It’s because Acun values style over substance. He’s also a lot like Elon Musk in that he thinks being wealthy makes him cool and popular. In reality, they’re both insecure, chubby man-children who crave validation and adulation. They hate being made fun of. I bet Acun squirmed in his seat when Fenerbahçe fans turned on him.

 

This has put me in a foul mood all day.

It's one thing to fire someone when they've fallen short of what was required, but for someone to come in and turn around an obviously limited team that was staring at relegation, keeping us up by hook or by crook, and he STILL gets the boot...

It's really left a bad taste in my mouth. Someone who does a decent job should always be allowed to continue at the job and build on what they've done unless there's a "blow your socks off" opportunity that we'd be foolish to pass up.

Reports are suggesting this isn’t the case, but he's pulled the trigger anyway.

Yes, the season didn't end in the manner we would have liked, but if the rumours are true about telling people in the international break that we need em to **** off cos they cost too much, then it's not much of a ****ing surprise, is it?

I'd be flabbergasted if that was Selles' decision.

 

Its getting a bit late for an announcement today. I hope they're not messing Selles about this much

 

The Rosenior sacking felt like a punch to the gut doubling me over. The Selles sacking is an elbow to the back of the head. I’m on my knees with this club right now.

If it wasn’t for the fact Acun followed in the footsteps of Ehab, I would be outside the club with my torch aflame!

Instead, I’m sat here completely uninterested in anything going on with the club moving forward. I couldn’t give 2 ****s who we appoint, or who we sign.

Maybe it’s time to find a new hobby.

 

I would say he was staring utter humiliation in Turkey if his vaunted toy, Hull City, were relegated. Besides the financial disaster his already damaged ego, self belief, credibility and self-promotion would have taken a further clobbering.

 

First paragraph, totally agree with (as far as we can see at least).

But from then on (and same with Kalman's added comments), I'd ask how the heck do you know that what you are stating as factual is true? You don't. It could well be that on one side of the considerations were things like you mention in that first paragraph, then on the other side of the considerations were the negatives. Maybe, or more like probably, the full picture is analysed, including stuff we don't see and know little to nothing about, and the final decision made on the balance of both sides of the considerations. I'm not commenting on whether or not the decision was right, but on how some seem to think they know what those running the club are thinking, how they've arrived at decisions, etc etc.

 

The acun worshippers are out in full force today

 

His burner account on X btw.

 

It’s objectively true that he is a chubby man-child.

Source: my eyes

 

This doesn’t seem as much of a jaw dropping wtf moment as Rosenior as his sacking somewhat set the precedent.

Doesn’t make it any less stupid though.

We’ll now have an indeterminate wait before we appoint a meh left field manager, confusion and obfuscation before we buy a selection of random players who won’t make up a team and then the inevitable poor start to the season.

Don’t know who the new sap may be but let me be the first to predict that he’ll be gone in November.