The Irish are not a race. I've told you this before Russ.
is "Black" a race?
If I said someone was a "Black Bastard" would that be racist even though "Black" is not a "Race"?
Take your time.
Sectarianism Doesn't Pay
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is "Black" a race?
If I said someone was a "Black Bastard" would that be racist even though "Black" is not a "Race"?
Take your time.
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Aren't they then? Oh no, I forgot, you are tapped into the Psyche of all Gers fans and those Scamps (The Glasgow ones anyway) are all just being sarcastic.
Go tell it to the Marines.
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Yes, I hate Rangers, with justification.. what of it? Does that invalidate my criticisms? If i am out of touch with scottish society, then you are out of touch with reality. I don't like racism and I don't like sectarianism. do you have a problem with that?
what supposed SFA plot against Celtic?
There is your problem. you are against songs that get your club into trouble and not because they are inherently racist and sectarian.
they were never acceptable. ever.
what has that got to do with it? Like I say, I am happy to debate whether these songs should or should not be sung. But they certainly are not racist or sectarian, so I don't see the relevance to this topic.
I haven't seen or heard racist or sectarian singing at Celtic park. I don't believe there is a problem but I do believe we should be vigilant against it.
Can you point it out again?
So you do admit there is a problem. At least now we are getting somewhere. As you are aware, there are two traditions on the island of Ireland. One which identifies with Britain and the other which does not. Your supporters are quite clearly making a distinction between those traditions and as such your ire is focused on one of those traditions. As such it is racist. Nothing to do with where they celebrate their God.
why? last time I saw Rangers there were thousands upon thousands of people breaking the law. That would indicate a significantly larger problem to me.
Oh, and what am I doing about it? I'm lobbying fans groups and forums urging them to weed out the minority who still don't realise the harm that's being done to our Glorious club and fans.
i asked what you were doing about combatting racism and sectarianism. The answer is nothing. You are maybe doing something to prevent Rangers getting in trouble. There is a difference.
You can do something about it as a collective if you really wanted, but you don't. I long for the day I can hate you for just being that other mob....but right now, I have plenty reason.
As a "neutral" I would say that it's pretty obvious they do, one only need read the sectarian ****e and casual anti Irish Racism spouted here on a daily basis to see that's the truth.
Their songbook seems to focus on nothing but religion and hate, Not all of them take part mind but certainly a very large vocal minority.
If telling Irish people to go back to Ireland is not racist then I don't know what is.
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Alas, we are getting to the root cause of your campaign against Rangers, you HATE us. You hate a football club. What a sad man you are. This is why I pity you, you hate a football club!! Grow up Rebel
I don't HATE anything, certainly not a football club. I'm afraid it's you who are out of touch with reality my good man, you live 200 miles away(?) and you are telling me what is going on in Scottish society? The reality is very different from your bitter HATE-filled version of events.
Good for you, no problem with that at all, only with your bigotry do I have a problem with, you will admit that at least, that you are bigoted against Rangers and it's fans because we are seen as the Proddy club?
The one that you refer to on the Celtic page, you know the one where Bob O'Baldes contract with Celtic is being mocked (allegedly)
What's wrong with that? I am against songs that get the club into trouble
They get the cub into trouble because they are seen as being sectarian. Your warped logic and the way you side step issues is truly astonishing.How do you know that? Do you have a chronicle of 19th and 20th Century Scottish behavioural traits? A common fault when judging history is to do so with toadays morals. It's not clever.
These songs are offensive, to sing about an organisation that has killed 1,000's(? (I don't know)) of British citizens is offensive to most right thinking people, regardless of whichever team they support.
So you never heard 50,000+ telling Walter Smith to cheer up and calling him a Sad ORANGE Bastard in the recent 3-0 pumpfest at Parkhead? Why does that not surprise me?
Yes, it was where I pointed out that in the past 30 years, Celtic fans threw bottles at Rapid Vienna players, and then attacked them on the pitch, caused the 1981 Scottish Cup Final riot, threw bananas at Mark Walters, attacked Ally Maxwell on the pitch, attacked Hugh Dallas on the pitch. Disrupting countless minutes silences, the Poppy banner SHAME (widley condemened by the UK media). That's just off the top of my head.
See two pervious points
I've already pointed out previously what I personally was doing. Are you doing your selctive responsives again?
Again, why are you blind to what I write? We will win this battle with a minority of idiots Rebelbhoy, I assure you
Imagine hating a football club, that's hilarious Rebel, what a sad **** you are I think you hate us for 1 reason and 1 reason only. You don't like the fact that we are the "Proddy" club.
I need to do some work, if you want a reply, it'll be tomorrow before I get round to it
P.S Hate a football team
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Dev It takes a big man to see when your club has these problems, and I salute you for your honesty.
Hopefully we are making strides here
Might be better asking Neil Lennon about this one Russ.
Hows them charges coming along against Lennon Girvan?
I recall you telling us they woudl be made public at any second.....weeks ago?
So was just after an update as you seemed to be "in the know"*
*meaning read on follow follow and took this to mean it was a FACT even though it was indeed no such thing. Much like how you've popped numerous virtual corks on the done deal take over as you also read that as FACT, when the only fact was it was bollocks
It takes a big man to see when your club has these problems, and I salute you for your honesty.
Hopefully we are making strides here
That was me wumming, sorry.
Dev and Rebelbhoy are probably the two most 'opinionated' Celtic fans on here and are probably about as fair on average as you Edge.
But compared to BH, Girvan, Its_a_Conspiracy, Rocket...
If this was a fair sample of both sets of supporters I'm sure we could all agree on who has the biggest issue with bigotry.
But compared to BH, Girvan, Its_a_Conspiracy, Rocket...
If this was a fair sample of both sets of supporters I'm sure we could all agree on who has the biggest issue with bigotry.
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I am fair, I just can't stand constant one-sided attacks on Rangers and it's fans by Rebelbhoy.
Just you wait for when 606 finishes and all the Celtic bigots come on here and start there pish Mick, you'll have your work cut out mate
And like I've already said, Rangers have a bigger problem with Sectarian singing, but Celtic have a bigger problem wit crowd disorder within it's ground.
Now stop replying to this thread you ****s!
Due to the 'Offendedness' on your Celtc F.C. board, and my resulting ban I was unable to update you all on the progress.
His day will come, as the pikeys would say.
Sure update us here and now?
No comeback on the Celtic fans throwing bottles at the Rapid Viennna cheats Edge?
A retraction perhaps?
A retraction perhaps?