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Sea the Stars First Yearlings to Sell

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  1. PNkt

    PNkt Well-Known Member

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    Later today the first yearling by Sea the Stars will come under the hammer at the JHRA sale in Japan. The colt, out of Starlight Dreams, is a half-brother to Mastercraftsman.
    The sale will also see the first yearlings by Conduit and first foals by Harbinger offered for sale.

    The first major European yearlings sale, Arqana’s Deauville August yearling sale, will also see several Sea the Stars yearlings go under the hammer. In honour of the great horse, Arqana are launching a website dedicated to the sale of this exciting first crop, see more here. The website goes live on Wednesday morning.
     
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  2. Ron

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    Cheers princess. Personally I'll be even more interested in the Harbinger foals.
     
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    The Sea the Stars sold for Y40,000,000 (about £325,000) to a Japanese buyer. The yearling session was topped by a Deep Impact colt, sold for Y250,000,000 (about £2,030,000).

    Foals sell tomorrow. It is a funny sale as the foals are all still unweaned. They are shown with their mothers then return to their breeder until they are weaned (August/September) before being sent on to the new owner.
     
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    I bought them both! <laugh>
     
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    Who are the Harbinger foals out of?
     
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    Will I be responsible for insuring the foal(s) prior to them coming here? By the way, thanks for not including Harbinger in the heading; don't want to push the prices up.
     
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    There are 20 foals by Harbinger catalogued, most of them out of Japanese raced mares. Most of them have video footage of each of the foals:

    Lot 305 Ex Folklore: video
    Lot 317Ex West Coast: video
    Lot 333 Ex Ndimakukhonda: video
    Lot 347 Ex Alphonsine: video
    Lot 354 Ex Bella Mi Amore: video
    Lot 364 Ex Guino: video
    Lot 376 Ex Bubble Dream: video
    Lot 393 Ex Mimetico: video
    Lot 402 Ex Chunyi: video
    Lot 411 Ex Pound Girl
    Lot 419 Ex Sawayaka Blanc
    Lot 428 Ex Make History: video
    Lot 440 Ex I Am Neo: video
    Lot 443 Ex Britomartis: video
    Lot 449 Ex Blue Ridge River: video
    Lot 458 Ex Chinese Flair
    Lot 465 Ex Colourful Talk: video
    Lot 477 Ex Pink Lips: video
    Lot 500 Ex Hunter&#8217;s Mark: video
    Lot 527 Ex Careless Whisper

    Pedigrees can be found here
     
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  8. Ron

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    Brilliant. Can't wait to show these to my wife and daughter. One stood out for me but I'll wait to see what they say.

    Difficult to find the pedigree for these (only checked the first few) because the names aren't unique. Do you have the unique names? The dam's sire and the sire of the dam's dam would be fantastic but if I had the unique name of dam or a link to the catalogue I could find those myself.

    I had better not let them know about the Deauville sale; it's only 90 mins drive.
     
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    Ron, I've now added the link up to the pedigrees for each foal. The vast majority are out of Japanese mares, so it is difficult to make much of the race records as they operate their own pattern system. What we would acknowledge as Group Races are listed as G1, G2 G3, etc. Japanese "pattern" races are JPN3, JPN2, JPN1 which means they are not good enough to be considered Group races by the rest of the world.

    If you want a sneaky peak at the Deauville sale, you can find the catalogue here ;)
     
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    Fascinating viewing PN. They look a decent bunch overall from what I saw.

    Which one caught your eye Ron?
     
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    You are a GEM Princess. Just had a quick look through the pedigrees. The one I liked from the videos has the sort of pedigree I like too.
     
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    Going off air now. Guess what we are doing.
     
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    Why would anyone pay £2m for a young'un? Obviously they can afford it but what is the thinking behind paying so much and what makes that particular lot stand out so much to bring such a price?

    I remember some years back, late 80's possibly that a horse i stand to be corrected was it Warshaan? went for around $2m and was only a bit above average on the track.
     
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    Right. Amanda and I have looked at the videos independently and selected independently (ie neither having any idea of the other's selection(s)

    My first choice was Lot No 305
    My second choice was Lot No 477

    Amanda's first choice was Lot No 477
    Amanda's second choice was Lot No 305

    My wife hasn't seen the videos yet and doesn't know which one's we have chosen.

    Amanda also liked the very late foal Lot 393
     
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    I recall one going for 10million guineas/dollars (can't remember the currency) and I don't think it reached a race track. If it did it never won.
     
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    Snaafi Dancer i think it was Ron. Could of even been having fertility problems as well at stud if memory serves.
     
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    That's the one and yes he did have fertility problems <cheers>
     
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    Don't forget the recent case of The Green Monkey - sold for $16million at the Fasig-Tipton Breeze Up Sale to Coolmore. Raced three times, failing to win. Now standing at stud in Florida (having been sold again) for the princely sum of $2,500 per covering!

    From what I remember, he was an extremely good looking 2yo and did his breeze for the sale in an astonishing time for such a young horse.

    People will usually pay large sums of money for a colt because they hope he will be good enough to go to stud and earn mega millions. Doesn't always work out that way though!
     
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    I wonder how our two will fare in the sale.
     
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