They're not going to win 29 seats the way they're going. The whole idea is ****ing mental. Scotland gets the best deal in the UK by an absolute mile.
Considering they were not within a thousand miles of negotiations when they they've had over fifty seats, the notion is verbiage. In any case, many in the SNP, Crankie especially, were no more interested in independence than I am in tossing the caber. It's a job as an MP or MSP they want. Most are of limited use in the real world, and the salaries, perks, expenses and pension benefits in one of those sinecures are light years better than what most of them could expect to earn by merit in the private sector. It's all just about snouting at the trough of public money. Much the same can be said of a great many intellectually limited MPs in England.
That's a great use of two 'new' words (that I've never heard of), Rowley . . . . eating a dictionary for breakfast is obviously provocative, in a healthy way
As someone born and raised in Scotland, but spent the vast majority of my life in England I have a foot in both camps. When the independence vote happened in 2014 I was dead against it - I really don't see how Scotland could possibly prosper with free university places, free prescriptions etc without subsidies from Westminster. As much as I understand how the Scots feel (we get a similar rough deal in the North East) I don't see independence as the solution. Having said that, I don't have the inferiority complex and shoulder chips that a lot of Scottish folk have. I see myself as British rather than Scottish or English and I'd rather keep the Union together
Scotland could prosper. But not under the SNP. They are nutters, committed to obliterating their best industry, ever higher taxes, ever more government interference in people's lives and political grandstanding. Everything in Scotland for which the devolved government has responsibility has absolutely tanked since the powers were passed on, especially since the SNP took over. They also do very well indeed , per head, for UK government cash through the Barnett Formula. Way more than anywhere in England. Too many there either work for the state, or are dependant on it. That's what needs to stop, it's a vicous circle of chronic proportions.
It's probably just me having stored this type of stuff in my napper to stall people at unnecessary meetings at work!
The problem with the SNP was/is that they only ever had one policy which was independence at all costs. When it came to the independence vote this was shown up for what it was as quite honestly their policies on pretty much every key point read as if they were put together as part of a 6th form school project. it was so bad that the indecisive could not possibly vote for it. Since gaining a majority in the devolved government this lack of depth of policy has been shown time and again - I think that they will get their wings clipped somewhat at the next GE and until they can develop cohesive fully formed and fiscally sound policies across the board then I can't see them doing enough ever be able to force through independence.
Raises an interesting point. Would they want a border setting up, separate passports etc. Or still like to have freedom of movement, bit like that organisation we just left. Can of worms Think it's all fine and dandy banging the drum for independence but no idea how it's going to work in practice. Just politicians SNP, trying to justify their existence
You'd have to have a hard border with individual passports etc but presumably some sort of reciprocal agreement for passage like the Americans have with Canada
It's mainly the older generation that have kept the independence at bay. I spend a lot of time in Scotland, I'm here now. The vast majority of folk I speak to under the age of 40 are pro independence. Its only a matter of time. I'm convinced it will happen in my lifetime.
You would, well at least I assume that you would but has anyone sat down and gone through the mechanics of it? Oh and who's paying for it? Actually I'm being a little bit naughty here it was meant tongue in cheek, sorry if I came over as being serious.
I don't know the 'ins and outs' of the independence debate, not having much care about it, but I can't see it happening any time soon, and I can't understand how there'd be any positives to come out of it for Scotland. I doubt that it'll ever happen 'cos it seems to me like they need to be a part of the U.K. and couldn't 'stand on their own two feet' successfully.
I'm in the same boat as you. It would appear that they would be voting for a poorer future, but at least they'd have their country back. Then again just a few years ago we voted to leave the EU so I wouldn't rule it out.
They would have to if they wanted to go back into the EU. Brexit had to undo 40 years of medium integration. This would have to undo 400 years of complete integration. The logistics would be staggeringly complicated.
