Scottish Independence and other political topics.

You're going for the double, yes vote and Pochettino to be a success but as the yes campaign is doomed then let's hope your confidence over our season is rewarded.

 

The YES campaign is doing far better than your Media would have us believe, but when you have two sides to an argument, Intelligent v Stupid, the UK usually comes down in favour of stupid, so I am up against it.

I must admit it is hard for me to understand why anyone other than the rich and the stupid* would want to be an advocate for the UK.

Poch I have to be hopeful, on the basis that he can't be worse then the last 2 seasons can he?

*Forgot: and the frightened.


Anybody see this BTW http://www.newsnetscotland.com/inde...ce-was-alerted-by-social-media-admits-hammond

A good example of the UK in action.

 

It's not about Salmond, but anyway why the **** do you have to look at Salmonds face in Tun Wells? AND Would you rather look at Alister Darlings smug face?

 

Calm down Spurfy

Salmond is all over the tv.

 

I'd rather not look at either but you have to admit Alex Salmond comes across very anti-English and it's not surprising that most English aren't particularly fond of him.

Anyway I didnt mean any offence by my comment, good luck in the vote, I hope it turns out the way you want it to!

 

i will be voting yes

 

I wish you well with your struggle for independence and raise a dram to a dawn of new optimism . It would be nice to rid our self's the continue bitter large minority
who constantly blame the rest of the UK for its trouble's and unfortunately have a large "chip on the shoulder" that always make them sound so childish and
unpleasant.
I have always thought of Spurf as rational and highly intelligent but surprised that he is a nationalist . Many of us , have a strong dislike of the Tory party and
the class system it represents . Not just Glasgow but Liverpool, Cardiff , Manchester to name a few stand together in there defiance of the privileged right .
I hope the clans will be rejoicing on that September day to "Tomorrow belongs to Me"
Could you then send us the Krankies please in exchange for monetary union.

 

I'm not a nationalist, that is an insult levelled at YES campaigners by the NO camp. This is not Nationlism this is not anti English (I am English) this is simply about the nation of Scotland wanting to run it's own affairs just like most other countries in the world, it's perfectly natural.

For me this is a chance for England too because the onl;y way we are going to break the 1000 year old rule of Britain by the elite that still sees a House of Lords, where incidently they get £300 a day PLUS expenses just for turning up, unelected making laws in their own interests and aginst the interest of most of us. A chance to get away from the current cabinet which is typical with what 22 millionaires and public schoolboys. Yeah for them it's a great country.

In the last 35 years the UK has gone from being one of the most equal in the developed world to the 4th most unequal and is still going further down this route. Our pensions are amongst the lowest in Europe, University Education is returning to the right only of the rich. The NHS is being privatised before your eyes and according to Doctors working in it will be private in 5 years time at the present rate. After the government already the biggest provider of health care is Virgin. In one of the wealthiest countries in the world we have Foodbanks because people can't afford to buy food FFS.

IMO there is little to make me want to stay with the UK, and people, particularly in England need to wake up. The only reason to support the present UK is if you are rich. I am what you would call well off, but it's not about people like me it's about my grandchildren and their future and your grandchildren. The UK is seriously struggling because this is the end of its Imperial days. All Empires decline & Fall in the end and this for the UK is the end.

Sorry to rant on on a football thread but this IMO is the most important political event in our lifetimes and we should all inform ourselves about it.

 

Bang on Sir Spurf. I mirror those sentiments exactly. Sadly the sheeple of this nation are so asleep, by the time they realise what has happened, it will be too late! Just take the possible passing of the Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership law. If you're not concerned about it, then you really should be otherwise it's bye bye NHS and anything else they can sell off. If you don't like it... voice your opposition to those overpaid bureaucrats: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/vince-cable-fix-ttip

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/04/us-trade-deal-full-frontal-assault-on-democracy

Good point flaspur.

 

I can assure you from personal knowledge that Salmond is in no way anti English he is however anti Westminster when it comes to ruling Scotland and that is a very different thing, however we are not voting for Salmond, he may or may not get elected in an Independent Scotland, the vote is simply for the right to vote for a Scottish government.

Thanks for your best wishes.

 

THis is what is happening to the NHS in England and Wales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5dl9fhj7o

 

Independence won't be happening so thankfully after September all this talk will move in a new direction and we can leave the yes campaigners to think of "what could have been" and they can stretch the truth to suit their failed dreams and allow every possible positive of independence (if it would have happened) to be viewed in a rose tinted way. However i'm glad the debate has happened and there will be a vote, as there will still be a positive future for Scotland, but it will be as it should be, which is better together.

 

Note the lack of evidence.

 

I am not even off topic as these are my feelings going into the new season.

 

I don't really want to comment on my views on this subject as, in my opinion, this is not the place for it. However, I would agree with Crackerman that Salmond doesn't help himself - whatever his true personality. He comes across, to me, as unbearably smug and somewhat of a know it all.

Let the Scottish people decide. The vote is for them, and for them only.

 

I take your point NSIS and I have considered that it is not appropriate but then decided if the topic came up to answer. The whole thing is very misrepresented by the MSM and Westminster so I am just doing my bit to redress the balance a little.

Anyway you're ok you're in Spain

 

Yes, it's not perfect - nowhere is. But, the health service here knocks the .NHS into a cocked hat. Then there's the weather, the cost of living, the laid back lifestyle, etc, etc....on balance, I think I'll stay here.

As I say, it's for the Scottish people to decide, let them do it. I realise that it potentially affects the whole of the UK, but they haven't been asked. Scots only.

 

I can't imagine anything less important than the opinion of a citizen of the United States of North America on Scottish independence. However, since it's come up and I'm interested, I'm in favor.

I'm personally concerned with the right wing lurch my own country has been making for 45 years and counting. If it were just the usual greediness, it wouldn't bother me as much. But it's at least as much absolutely idiotic stupidity seguing into a lemming-like mass suicidal urge. (I know lemmings don't really run off cliffs intentionally. It's only Americans who are stupid enough to do that.)

Now we've taken a couple of good hard pokes at the hornets nests in the middle east, we're shocked that the hornets have stung us. We thought the idea that you need to know something about military history to go to war was ridiculous.

The whole thing really is very funny, if you have any appreciation for black comedy. Then there was the state of Alabama, which decided to get rid of all their immigrants. Result: there was no one to bring in the harvest in a state where agriculture is one of the biggest industries. The tiny number of citizens willing to work in the fields were completely unable to work anywhere near as hard and effectively as the illegal immigrants did.

Interview with an Alabaman: "It's like a slow movin' invasion."

And it's been going on for around 500 years and has come to be known as the United States of America. If you want to remove your own immigrant family, I'd take you seriously,

It's funny how all the people in favor of free enterprise crawl all over each other to keep themselves safe from it. The less well a citizen would fare competing with an immigrant, the more anti-immigration he is.

It's also funny how rich people are desperate to give their children advantages they didn't earn. Real capitalists would favor making sure all children had access to the same resources, so the best could rise to the top. Colleges now cost $50,000 a year, making education select the intelligent and hardworking less and less, and the wealthy more and more.

The US is actually very socialistic, but it's socialism for the rich. Wall Street makes its gambles as wild as possible, because they'll rake in the winnings and socialize the losses. It wouldn't be half so annoying if they didn't justify this by saying they've earned their zillion dollar bonuses.

It all feels like fighting drones with sling shots.

 

American citizens, Scottish Independence, dirty politicians... This fan's feelings on the new season thread is going well