It's from a mags forum. Give it a read lads, it's a laugh. From all Iâve read and heard in the aftermath of this game, I can only conclude that in the near future, a Tyne Wear derby will be marked by the death of a fan. Undoubtedly this fan will be one of ours, perhaps a solitary teenager at a bus stop or a middle-aged family man looking for his car, but heâll be a black and whiter who will fall under a flurry of boots and fists, or a single stab by a bladed up sewer rat. I donât want to sound alarmist, but the fact is, the mackems hate Newcastle United with such fury they will kill one or more of us to demonstrate that fact. The victim who dies will join Bobby Robson and Gary Speed in the litany of sick songs that are spread on sunderland message boards in preparation for games against us.Having watched the full game again, all I could conclude is that sunderland, both players and supporters, are completely out of control and that this mass, snarling hysteria is fed and nurtured by the highest echelons of the club. Examine the conduct of both sets of fans; on Sunday, Shola Ameobiâs 90th minute equaliser was met with joyous scenes in the ground. However, not one person encroached upon the field of play; compare this with the Mackem reactions to Gyanâs equaliser last season when Steve Harper was assaulted or in October 2008, when Kieran Richardsonâs goal was greeted with a mass pitch invasion and Shay Given being assaulted. Admittedly Alan Pardew did go slightly over the top with his celebrations, but at least he had the grace to apologise; unlike OâNeill who didnât have the grace to accept the traditional post match glass of wine, artlessly preferring to get straight on the coach back to his Wearside midden, no doubt embellishing his fictional narrative on the day. Each season, Newcastle fans travel to Wearside, by Metro, train, bus, car or even furniture van, and cause not a scrap of bother. On Sunday, the Mackems followed up their destruction of a train carriage en route to their cup replay in Smogland by trashing a Metro. This wasnât a regular Metro, but a special one that went non-stop Park Lane to Central to allow them to get to the game. En route to the game, the windows of The Forth were put in; presumably in the belief that it is still 1983 and the NME were supping inside, rather than because it is an effete gastro pub, with a similarly effete post 92 clientele, even if the prix fixe menu is of an extraordinarily good standard. In the ground several seats were smashed, two stewards were assaulted (a female punched in the face and a male pushed down a flight of stairs) and the toilets were wrecked, as well as having excrement smeared around them, presumably as some kind of Dirty Protest tribute to Niall Quinn, the Drumaville Pavees and their current manager, of whom more later. However, such cretinous behaviour is perhaps to be expected for several reasons. Firstly, and most obviously, mackems are a lower form of life and visiting civilisation gets them all excited. Secondly, but most importantly, their club glorifies boorishness and encourages bellicose posturing. The famed free taxis home paid for by Niall Quinn for the sizeable number of their fans who were drunkenly out of control in Bristol airport in 2007, planted the seed in their minds that anti social behaviour will not only be tolerated by the club hierarchy, but rewarded. The only reason Newcastle did not hand out another severe thrashing to the unwashed is that in the first half, Pardewâs team allowed themselves to be dragged down to the mackemsâ level and engaged in a hideous kicking contest. The tone was set by Cattermoleâs premeditated attack on Tiote after 40 seconds; having reputedly told Tiote in the tunnel that heâd âdoâ him, the man who wears the captainâs armband for sunderland deliberately scythed down Tiote in an assault intended to injure the Ivorian. Cattermole ought to have walked then. I remember Gordon Armstrong doing the same thing on Paul Bracewell in April 1993âs game that was decided by Scott Sellarsâs free kick. Back then, Keeganâs team laughed it off and got on with the business of winning; sadly this was not the outcome in this instance. Newcastleâs adoption of strongarm tactics saw 4 rapid bookings, even if Simpson was rightly furious following McCleanâs vile lunge on him. The predictable conclusion to this passage of ale house clogging by the Magpies was the nonsensical penalty conceded by Williamson for a tug on Turner, which was celebrated in a deliberately provocative way by Frazier Campbell, intended to incense Newcastle fans and no doubt the cause of an imminent FA charge for incitement. Following this goal, a brief period of phoney war almost saw the Mackems go 2-0 ahead, but Krul made an excellent save from Bendtner and with that the Mackems retreated to their own 18 yard line for the remainder of the game. Despite being deservedly behind, the previously mentioned efforts from Ba and Coloccini could have seen Newcastle ahead at the break. In the second period, especially after Sessegnonâs forearm smash on Tiote, who was himself booked for the only foul committed by a Newcastle played after the resumption, Newcastle were a joy to watch. Hatem Ben Arfa was Man of the Match by a street and showed exactly what Newcastle fans love to see; football artistry, poetry with the feet. We are the fans who idolise not only our number 9s, but the glorious ball players whoâve graced the Gallowgate turf; Beardsley, Tony Green, Len White, Bobby Mitchell, Hughie Gallagher, Colin Veitch and Pat Heard to name but a few. In contrast on Wearside, brutish, cowardly hatchet men like Joe Bolton, Charlie Hurley, John Kay, Kevin Ball and now Lee Cattermole are lauded. Off the top of my head I can recall Gary Bennett, Howard Gayle, Paul Hardyman, Titus Bramble, Phil Bardsley, Sessegnon and Cattermole being dismissed from the field of play in derby games; not one of those names belongs to a Newcastle player. The meaning of that is self-evident; sunderland cannot control their players. This season alone Bardsley was sent off for a stamp, Sessegnon for an elbow and Cattermole for an unprovoked foul-mouthed tirade against a referee whoâd done his level best amidst the mayhem, even if he missed at least 3 other penalties we should have had. Laughably Cattermoleâs conduct was excused by OâNeill in a post match interview where, summoning up all the traditional Celtic paranoia from his stint in Glasgow, he felt there were âmitigating circumstances.â According to OâNeill, there had been a Newcastle United presence in the refereeâs room at half time. John Carver at this point interjected and pointed out, in no uncertain terms, that OâNeill was a liar. Obviously as far as the unwashed goes, if a lie is put out in to the real world, it becomes a fact; perhaps being caught out was the reason why OâNeill flounced out of Tyneside, preferring instead to make a cowardly interview with local radio on the Tuesday, replete with lies and innuendo. If you want to see real class and the conduct of perfect gentlemen, seek out the ESPN post match interview with Shola and Demba Ba. Articulate, incisive, humble and intelligent; these men are a credit to our club and the polar opposite of the scowling, snarling, spitting vermin from down the road. As a minimum, the FA need to charge sunderland with failing to control their players, while both Campbell and McClean, for his comments on Twitter, should be brought to book. However, this will not be enough; when a sunderland message board is full of death threats against Pardew, things really need to stop. Back in 1996, the ban on away fans at derby games allowed for the formation of Wear Fans United to protest against the decision; 16 years on I can see no possible hope of a similar organisation being formed to calm the situation down. However, it has to be said this is not necessary on one side of the divide. At Newcastle United, we fans police ourselves; we love the club and we respect our history and traditions. The same cannot be said of our local rivals; unless sunderland fans come to their senses and gain a sense of proportion about what is after all only a game of football, people will die on derby day. Those on Wearside must accept that this is where their conduct has them headed; they need a reality check before it is too late.
Alot of things have been said & done, mainly by thugs who should be banned for life regardless of who they are as it make not one jot ot difference.
I remember a while back at one of the Derby games at ouR place the buses pulled up with the Newcastle fans on just up where the industrial units are. I was walking down with a pal of mine and the banter was funny nothing else just a good laugh. Then the back door of one of the buses opened and a guy started pissing out of it. A guy was walking with his daughter about a 10/11 year old lass and the mag on the bus was screaming at her to come over and (i need say no more) I thought you fooking prick. The dad of this young girl covered her eyes and just kept walking while a different bloke took exception and went over pulled him out the back of the bus and started giving him a hell of a kicking before no more then 30 secs later the police were everywhere. My point is 1) arse hole on the bus what a complete waste of a human being (Newcastle supporter) 2) Bloke who dragged him off the bus what a idiot of the highest order it the police did not get there when they did RIOT! (Sunderland supporter) We both have them dont anybody kid themselves. I drink with Newcastle supporters every weekend and they are some of my best mates top blokes and I know they would say the same about me (i hope so anyway) the other fooking idiots would you choose to have a pint with them just because they have a red and white or a black and white shirt on??? not a fooking chance would I.
- by a bladed up sewer rat - get straight on the coach back to his Wearside midden - presumably as some kind of Dirty Protest tribute to Niall Quinn, the Drumaville Pavees and their current manager - mackems are a lower form of life - summoning up all the traditional Celtic paranoia from his stint in Glasgow - Obviously as far as the unwashed goes, if a lie is put out in to the real world, it becomes a fact; perhaps being caught out was the reason why O’Neill flounced out of Tyneside, preferring instead to make a cowardly interview with local radio on the Tuesday, replete with lies and innuendo Bold highlight - What irony. The language of reconciliation, balance and objectivity? An article purporting to be about a genuine concern for the future conduct and safety of fans but peppered with insults and provocative and alarmist language and appearing to be actually designed to incite reaction from the Sunderland community. And the author encourages us to get a sense of proportion? I do not find this a laugh. I wish all genuine north east fans well for the rest of the season
And they wonder why they're called deluded by the whole of the football community. Have I seen fights between us and them? Yes. Have I been involved with fights with them? Yes. Have I seen them using weapons? Yes. Have I used weapons against them? Nope. Have I seen our fans attacking women and children? Nope. Have I seen their fans attacking women and children? Yes.
Thank goodness for intellect and balanced observations. After the vitriol from the game we have the voice of reason and compromise. I am sure this will go a long to mending the rift between both supporters.
Self-policing fans? They did a good job of protecting the Bigg Market, or the sign on ASDA or......you get my drift
They did a good job of self-policing at Darlington as well before the season had even started. I've never read such a pile of ****e in all my life.
Such inane, utter ****e should be greeted and commented upon with equal well balanced, thoughtful and measured response. To the craa bell end that constructed this fairy tale. You must get out more. Life does exist outside your mam's apron string and beyond the square mile of NE1 you obviously have never travelled past. In short. Get a ****ing life you dim witted moron.
These are the views of a very naive individual. Anyone with atleast two brain cells to rub together knows that there are arse wipe fans on both sides, ot all teams and in every cross section of society for that matter. The actions of a few do not represent the majority. If one of the 9/11 hijackers was wearing a Newcastle strip would that make all their fans terrorists? Of course not. Open your eyes, pop your dummy back in and grow up man. As for the game I don't understand this viewpoint we were dirty. The facts and figures speak for themselves. We were the only team that tried to play football in the first half, a view endorsed by your once claimed 'messiah'. As for the dirtiest player on the pitch, step forward Cheik Tiote. 5 fouls before he was even booked, kicked Sessegnon in the back of the leg 5 times before Sessegnon reacted then threw himself around on the floor like he'd been dropped by a Klitschko. Not to mention punching Cattermole straight in the face. With this thread youve let down the good honest respectable Newcastle fans, well done.
This article is as one-sided as most of the tripe that gets written on that mental SMB forum. Totally unbalanced view that doesn't do anyone any justice. Both clubs (all clubs in fact) have absolute knackers in amongst their support, but when things turn to - completely unfounded - downright hatred of a group of people en masse, then it's time for a reality check. Personally, it boils my blood when I hear "geordie scum", "mackem inbreds" etc etc... as if all people are the same braying neanderthals because of where they are from. And arguing about which club has the most "class"? Don't make me laugh. The irony meter is overloading on that one. It's pathetic. It's gone beyond banter these days and both clubs did themselves no favours, both on the pitch and off it.
Surely most of you can see that this type of article is written to provoke? Football is football, you're going to hate each other at some point, it's because of the provocation not the football. One thing I do remember is, during the riots last year when scruffy little bastards were trashing my city, you lot never made the national news up in the North East. To me that's having respect for your areas, which includes the people who live in it. These divs cannot tell right from wrong, they are governed by a law which dictates that the police are unlikely to arrest them, and even if they do they'll likely get released, bailed, or let out of prison after serving only minutes of a sentence. The part of the brain required for processing probable consequences, likely went down the pan when their mother was double-dropping Mitsubishi's in her 8th month of pregnancy. As long as you remember that the minority shout a lot louder than the majority when it comes to order, you'll remember to not generalise when it comes to an entire fan base. It would be easy for me to say it, but I don't think all Liverpool fans are racists....I know one that isn't.
Ha this guy would have gone down a storm in pre war Nazi Germany with this sort of anti SAFC propaganda. Newcastle uniteds very own Joseph Goebbels.
FFS how does everything turn into a Newcastle v Sunderland. NO ONE can take moral high ground here. The ****s who smeared **** on the walls on Sunday - scumbags. The Newcastle fans who ripped seats out the ground at the SoS - scumbags. Both sides have these moronic fools in equal amounts, the colour of shirt a person chooses to wear isn't what sets him apart, it is his behaviour. For anyone to take a "we are better than thou" attitude to this is ridiculous, that applies to fans both sides of the divide.
