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Off Topic Saving the NHS

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  1. JM Fan

    JM Fan Well-Known Member

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    I watched some of this programme last night and it is quite frightening the pressure that exists on the NHS - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33509178. It will be interesting to see if the experiment in Liverpool is a success to change unhealthy lifestyles and reduce the number of overweight 4 and 5 year olds.

    On a slightly different topic the number of children having to have operations to remove baby teeth due to too many sugary drinks is reaching crisis point - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33498324. The report says that 90% of all cases is preventable!!!!!

    Rant over
     
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  2. THURNBY YELLOW

    THURNBY YELLOW Well-Known Member

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    it goes back JR to responsibility and parenting to a degree. Surely kids do not become obese overnight. If there is an increase in weight then all it takes is for the diet to be modified, exercise to be increased or a combination of the two. To wake up and see that the child is say 4 stone overweight does not happen.
     
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  3. KIO

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    Feeding kids crap is just laziness eating healthy is not expensive, you could fill a shopping basket with fruit and vegetables for less than a tenner if you shop at the right places. Then of course you have to prepare a meal with them which is appealing to a child which isn't that difficult if you put your mind to it. You just have to be bothered to take the trouble to do so, it does help if you're a 'foody' and a bit of a chef like me though :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  4. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    When I lived here in the Philippines in the '80s there were no fast food outlets except a small chain of pizza parlours, and the people looked extremely fit. Fast forward over 30 years and junk food everywhere with the resulting obesity problems.
     
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  5. KIO

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    I recently had to go to the NNUH as an out patient for several tests and I have to say if they are working under so much pressure (and I'm sure they are), it really didn't show as each and every nurse and doctor I saw was totally professional and at the same time sympathetic and understanding and a total credit to their professions. <ok>

    One or two of the receptionists were miserable sods mind !
     
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  6. Rich44

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    Except it's much cheaper to feed kids crap than it is good wholesome food. When it's cheaper to buy processed **** over fresh food that's the ridiculous situation we need to counter.

    We also have a whole generation who basically got no food education at school let alone understand dietary requirements, thanks to a stupid curriculum and over emphasis on science, English & maths instead of parity with learning important life skills.
     
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  7. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    I have been having tests and treatment for prostate cancer. I only went for a routine PSA test because a friend was diagnosed,I have no symptoms. I had the test in January. It took three months to get a biopsy that confirmed the presence of cancer. It's not the bad sort admittedly,in fact if you have to have it it's the best sort,slow,non-aggressive and totally contained within the prostate. My specialist said simply "I can cure it".

    Since mid april though it has moved very slowly. I had MRI scans in May and a bone scan at NNUH last month. I am still waiting for the results on which ongoing therapy depends,either removal or radiotherapy. I phoned my specialist yesterday and his secretary said they dont have scan results yet,and that some people who went on June 19th are not back yet. In my case it probably isn't crucial but for those with a worse prognosis it could be crucial. I asked my GP about it. His reply was one word ...money.
     
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  8. KIO

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    It must be a real worry for you Cruyff, take care of yourself mate. My father has suffered with prostate issues for years and has had two operations but he's still going strong (he's 86), mind you he'd probably rattle if you shook him because of all the pills he has to take on a daily basis <laugh>

    Because of the family history my prostate was checked when trying to get to the bottom (pardon the pun:emoticon-0105-wink:) of my problem but thankfully it's ok. Back to the hospital soon for another scan but like you I've been waiting two weeks and still haven't recieved an appointment date. The Doctor however did say that she didn't believe there was anything nasty to worry about but when your symptoms persist you cannot help doing so.
     
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  9. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    I am 63 and my dad had his removed at 65 and died of an unrelated condition at 80 so I am not too concerned. It's rather worrying for the general population though as I wonder just how many men have it undiagnosed. As I said I have no symptoms. When I had the biopsy the nurse said that about 25% at my age have some form of cell abnormality in the prostate. In can only urge others to ask for a PSA test.It's treatable and in the vast majority of cases entirely curable.
     
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  10. KIO

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    Women are actively encouraged and indeed sent reminders to have smear tests and breast scans so with prostate cancer being such a huge killer one would have thought men would be encouraged to have regular check ups for this, why is this not the case ? I listen to talkSPORT on a daily basis and there have been regular adverts for Prostate Cancer UK but this is a charity and not NHS funded.

    http://prostatecanceruk.org/
     
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  11. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    I think the problem would be the sheer numbers involved. It's an odd disease in as much as if you are diagnosed at 60 you are more likely to be alive ten years later than the general population. This is because the diagnosis itself sets in train a whole barrage of tests,scans etc that would likely pick up other conditions which would respond to early treatment. I think that routine testing would probably swamp the NHS so they leave it to those of us who feel it is a good idea to get tested to present ourselves. They grade the cancers on something called the Gleason Scale which gives a number 6-12. I was fortunate in scoring 6 which puts me on the bottom end. It may well be that had I not been tested I might have died from something else before it gave me a problem. Once you know though you do tend to want to get it sorted.
     
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