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Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by TopClass, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

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    Evening all. A really good days racing overall for this time of the season and just a week til the Ladbrokes St Leger.


    The Haydock Sprint Cup 3.25:

    STRONG SUIT 6/1 (NAP)

    This horse is such high class on his day that he was, towards the end of last season, looked at as the answer to Canford Cliffs in the Hannon yard. There are valid excuses all 3 starts this year- racing Frankel being one, and soft ground being the other.

    I was really happy with his first run back on a quick surface LTO when Lethal Force stole the race, because Strong Suit ran on exceptionally well after being keen early, and that run will have bought him on for this. Hannon is shrewd in targetting these big pots of prizemoney and it seems like Strong Suit has had this sort of a race in mind for a while as he possesses the crusing speed to do it.

    If he settles well enough and can find a position, I see no reason why he cannot do a similar thing to Dream Ahead last year, who was waited with before pouncing at the last minute.


    The Irish Champion Stakes 5:45


    ST NICHOLAS ABBEY 4/1 (Ladbrokes) (NB)


    This is a controversial choice from me as I have always said this horse is better over further than 1m 2f. However, his record at left handed tracks is excellent and is where he has produced his most stunning performances- Breeders Cup, Epsom Coronation Cups, Chester Ormonde stakes, and his desperate 2nd to Cirrus Des Aigles in Meydan. He proved against Farhh that he is potentially still an excellent horse at this distance and has to be feared. 4/1 is a good price given how well he ran on to close on Nathaniel at Ascot and I'd say Nathaniel needs a mile and a half even more than St Nicholas Abbey, who does still possess an electric turn of foot on his day.


    Handicap Punt? BECAUSEWECAN- 4.00 Haydock 20/1 - well handicapped and on quicker ground can slip the field from the front under the right tactical ride.




    Enjoy the day folks!
     
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  2. SaveTheHumans

    SaveTheHumans Well-Known Member

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    Agree with you on Strong Suit Toppy he has great cruising speed and didn't have a hard race lto either albeit he should have won, i'll be backing him and goodluck with the others, sure to run good races also.
     
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  3. motucker

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    Hi lads been lookin all the way every day .way before bbc forum shut down. 606 dead. this forum blows hot and cold. i wager big and small stakes £5 up to £100 bets daily best ones were -famouswise storming gale opened 7/2 out to 6/1 won on bridle £100 win nice one .had some crackers off roto best was £100 on soolan 10/1 won by 11 lenths . anyhow .

    17:45 Leopardstown
    love to see Born To Sea win will be backing it at 20s
    St Nicholas Abbey main bet .J P O'Brien needs to be closer turnin for home

    my *£3 yankkie

    13:45 Haydock =Al Waab. best form in race for me.
    14:00 Ascot =Winsili .liked the way he won last time.
    14:50 Haydock=Chil The Kite.done not alot wrong . do for me.
    16:55 Stratford=Henry San.wont be far away.
    £3 win yankiee £33.00
     
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  4. rainbowview

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    PRICEWISE tomorrow

    Gordon Lord Byron
    Wizz Kid
    Sir Graham Wade
    Harjas
     
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  5. motucker

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    Bated Breath for me draw a worry
     
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  6. Brough Tiger

    Brough Tiger Well-Known Member

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    The matron stakes at leopardstown has to be one of the worst group 1 fields on a long time! Chachamaidee isn't a group 1 horse or a miler, emulous was very poor last time, duntle needs to improve and I'm not sure maybe has really trained on. The rest aren't particularly great either.
     
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  7. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    Treble on:
    Thistle Bird 11/4
    Ortensia 5/2
    Snow Fairy 2/1

    :afro:
     
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  8. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    4.00 - High Office 14/1
    4.30 - Salutation 7/1
     
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  9. Peter the spastic paedo

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    5.25 Stratford - Tigers Jacey
     
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  10. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Haydock
    2.50 Thistle Bird 3/1
    3.25 Bated Breath 10/3

    Leopardstown
    4.10 Orgilgo Bay 6/1
    4.40 Duntle 4/1
    5.45 Snow Fairy 2/1
     
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  11. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

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    Interesting to see Snow Fairy a warm order tomorrow. Can see Nathaniel going on the drift in the morning and touching 7/4.
     
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  12. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Can see Nathaniel going off 16/1, going to be funny seeing him getting embarrassingly outpaced off the bend at Leopardstown. I think Snow Fairy is a jailcase, far too much speed for those two at 10f, she will come there cantering and quicken away, 2 or 3 lengths easy imo.
     
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  13. SaveTheHumans

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    RV, why you so sweet on Harvard n Yale 4:15 Ascot? See you talking it up in the lge comp there. No something we don't <whistle>
     
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  14. rainbowview

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    Hi STH - not really mate just messing around a bit. I think he is a massive price. Had a big reputation as a juvenile and although he didn't live up to expectations he still has ability and is open to improvement. Thought he shaped well on his reappearance - step up in distance should suit. Looks on a very workable mark and a top 5lb claimer takes the ride. At 25s I will be having a small dabble.
     
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    I don't think SNA has a chance. I'll cheer him on regardless (without a penny on) but for a number of reasons I think Nathaniel has him held and Snow Fairy could be anything really depending on the bounce.
     
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  16. GGW

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    Today's forgotten horse, Society Rock perhaps? 10/1 looks very fair on the basis of his 3 runs this season. First time out ran 3rd behind 2 horses who had already run that season. Second run was the one behind Black Caviar when SR gave the field 5l at the start. Last run was on that heavy, heavy ground in the July Cup. Outran his draw in this very race last year too. Has a chance.
     
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  17. Ardent1965

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    Interesting Appraise 1st week twittering/tweeting @AppraiseForm....sign up if your interested in following a winning system...Irish Champion my advice watch and enjoy...any of the market leaders you could make a strong case for. GL.
     
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  18. OddDog

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    Morning everyone <ok>

    One that caught my eye this morning is John Dunlop's Miss Topsy Turvy in the 4.05 at Thirsk. This C&D winning filly was unlucky to run into Kangaroo Court on a going day last time out at Salisbury and has had a nice break since then, presumably getting geared up for an autumn campaign. Hopefully we'll get a decent gallop with 15 runners because I think she is best coming off a strong pace.

    Best of luck to everyone <ok>
     
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  19. rainbowview

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    Morning lads. At footy so will miss a few races. Glad Leopardstown is on a bit later. Anyways have gone for the following.


    1.30 Ascot - Telescope 3/1

    2.35 Ascot - The Taj 8/1

    4.15 Ascot - Harvard And Yale 22/1 E/W

    2.50 Haydock - Thistle Bird 3/1

    3.25 Haydock - Ortensia 11/4

    2.30 Kempton - Dandino 4/1

    3.05 Kempton - Royal Empire 5/2
     
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  20. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    leopardstown 6.50 RAPID APPROACH 7/2
     
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