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Sandro not goodenough???

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by pabird, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. pabird

    pabird Active Member

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    Our manager states Sandro not Picked as he ;is not good enough;

    Have never stated this before but the man not good enough is Sherwood who is looking for an excuse due to quantify his belief that defensive midfielders are a non requirement

    Stupid statements and under prepared teams are his trademark

    Taxi for Tim.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Taxi? I was thinking catapult.
     
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  3. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Nah!...rocket launcher.
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    "is Sherwood who is looking for an excuse due to quantify his belief that defensive midfielders are a non requirement"

    I can live with that, seeing how the U21s have played 4-3-3.
    When you have 1-2 in the middle 3 buzzing all over the place, I would concede that a
    specialist DM might be redundant.

    But Timmy has been playing neither that formation, nor players who buzz around in CM
    to deny the opposition MF control of the game.
     
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  5. Spurf

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    So Sherwood reabilitates our famous striker Adebayor and then alienates our best defensive midfielder. Ego rules and that is the problem at Spurs too many egos.

    Our next manager needs an ego the size of a house if he is to suceed at Spurs, but with top players so difficult to come by and to keep it would make sense if he had some people skills.
     
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  6. Boss

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    Sherwood rates Sandro but at this moment has decided not to include him. Do I agree. No. But Sherwood should have just said 'he's unavailable at the moment'. Yet Sandro was unprofessional by going to Twitter as he knew by saying he wasn't injured that it would put the focus on Sherwood to explain why he's not been selected.

    So you can have a dig at Sherwood but Sandro shouldn't be running to Twitter. Twitter is what causes all these issues and the Saddos that now start the majority of their points with a hash tag or the press who trawl twitter looking for stories.
     
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  7. Spurf

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    Good point Boss <ok>
     
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  8. NSIS

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    Perhaps it should be considered WHY Sandro felt free to take to twatter? Could it be that he knows he will soon be rid of Tim, not so nice, but dim?...seems that Timmy is not quite so liked and supported by the players as he would have us believe.
     
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  9. yidokev

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    well said. none of us know whats going on inside the club, if sandro's not pulling his weight in training why should he deserve a game at the weekend
     
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  10. pabird

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    Simply do not believe Sandro a problem in training unless Sherwood has really started to lose the changing room

    All sports teams have a variation of characters and it begins to look as if gobby Tim struggles with outspoken strong characters I.e. players similar to himself when a player

    Ps. No comments here reference the managers failure to prepare his team for the first whistle which has been a constant failing
     
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  11. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    You're right, of course but it's not about being right in football. Ashley Cole shot a colleague with an air rifle and got a fine whilst a youth player let off a smoke bomb and got fired. If the youth player was the one with the air rifle and Cole set off a smoke bomb the same person still gets sacked.

    Maybe as fans we're guilty of taking his side because we think he's a character but as much as I like Sherwood he hasn't got the ability to start shoving his weight around but Sandro does. Sandro is in the wrong for being unprofessional but is he in the wrong for feeling he should play? Yes and no really, he should respect the managers decision but on the other hand he's clearly one of our best players.

    That's all if you take the Tweets as the real problem here. I don't, not for a minute. Sandro hasn't played for a month now and in his last game Sherwood actually praised him for doing a good job as a centre back. Sherwood is totally wrong if he feels Bentaleb, Dembele, Chadli and Paulinho are all better centre midfielders than him, it's not even a matter of opinion. Sandro also has the opportunity of representing his country at a home World Cup this summer, that's a one off opportunity and his already slim hopes are being laid to rest by his manager not even finding a place for him on the bench.

    I'd happily see Sherwood sacked tomorrow if it stopped him upsetting any more of our best players. What's next, Eriksen getting dropped so Obika can get some minutes? Holtby got away very lucky, he gets to play regular football under a decent manager before returning for when we decide get a manager instead of Sideshow Sherwood.

    I've praised Sherwood for how he's handled the speculation around his job but now he's clearly throwing his weight around whilst he still can. I can't think of any other explanation for it, it's certainly not a football decision.
     
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  12. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Eggs? Happy Easter.
     
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  13. Boss

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    All fair points Yv. I personally think Sandro is an outstanding player and have always backed his case to be included and especially with the world cup it would be deserving for him to be selected based not just on ability but the wretched luck he has had with injuries.

    But I do have an issue with footballers and twitter and the avoidable drama it causes over issues which should be kept behind closed doors as if twitter wasn't around then its likely Sandro would have been assumed injured and returned for the next game.

    Remember earlier in the season when Sherwood apparently fell out with Capoue? He found his way back into the team so I personally am not overacting as there is nothing to suggest there is a major problem, just drama and headlines to create s stir.

    But to clear one part up, when Sherwood said''he's not good enough " i believe it was in response to his attitude and how he trains(rather then ability) and that none of us can fully comment on as we aren't there at training, even if we view Sandro as being a dedicated player so I'll see how the situation develops before deciding if what Sherwood has done was just him throwing his weight around.
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    I assume that Sandro's a little bit pissed off on missing out on an opportunity to regain his place in Brazil's world cup squad, especially as he'd have been playing with one of their first choice midfielders if selected.
    He's fit and available, yet he's not even making the bench, when the likes of Harry Winks and Milos Veljkovic made it last week against West Brom.
    There's also a glaring need for a player in his role, yet the manager fails to see it, time and again, choosing to put in wingers and attacking midfielders in that position, instead.

    He still shouldn't have done it, but I think he may have been spending a little too much time around Assou-Ekotto and/or Adebayor, especially as his Twitter reply was "lol, lol, lol". <doh>
    Makes you wonder how many more of our supposedly injured players are actually out though, doesn't it?
     
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  15. pabird

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    The only way to judge a manager coach is by team performance and if Tim is dealing with another person's group of players it is still his job to coach them into professional attitudes with recognizable systems of play added to which for a gobby manager to act in such a manner when an international player expresses himself then Tim should put his own house in order first

    In performance alone a Taxi for Tim which should be sooner rather than later
     
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  16. Inda

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    Found myself agreeing with Shearer <yikes>. Sandro didn't make the team and we won. Could we have kept a clean sheet with Sandro in the team? Who knows? We'll never know.

    Sherwood spoke about Eriksen, Kane and Sigurdsson staying back to train. Sherwood previous spoke about player earning their money and putting a shift in. The message is: if you want to play, you have to train and knuckle down. Good. That's how it should be. That's probably the majority of managerial thinking up and down the country.

    I think Sandro is immature and the resident class clown doesn't know when to switch off the comedy show. Save the pissing around for the local park. He might think he's better than the rest, the typical thought of the popular joker, but he's not.
     
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  17. Inda

    Inda Well-Known Member

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    They're highly paid men, who took on profession contracts at a top club. They're not school children who can throw their toys out the pram when they don't get their own way.
     
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  18. NSIS

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    There's a lot of assumptions being made here. Sandro, doesn't train - do we know that?, no! He's had a row with Sherwood - possibly, but who knows. Yes, Sandro shouldn't have taken to Twatter, but the only thing I can read into it is that there is little respect for Sherwood. You have to ask yourself, would Sandro have been brave enough to do that with say, Van Gaal in charge?..

    If any player had done that to Ferguson, you can bet that he would know that he'd already played his last game for Utd - unless his name was Rooney, of course :biggrin:
     
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  19. Master Yoda

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    Tim Sherwood seeings Sandro train...

    The player was wrong to tweet when he did. It was clearly undermining. Sandro is paid a shedload of money and should act professionally.

    Sherwood's post-match interview was honest and refreshing IMO.
     
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  20. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    If Rodgers dropped Henderson for a month saying he's not good enough to play in the team and put Luis Alberto on the bench ahead of him would you believe him? Well you probably would because he's got you in the title race but were you not then I bet you wouldn't take Rodgers' side.
     
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