Despite having a tremendous first half of the season, RVPs massive dip in form has been the reason we've been knocked out of both cups early yet again. Countless chances against Real Madrid, and a sitter today against Chelsea which he blasts straight over the bar. He should not be in the team at the moment, as since the turn of the year he's looked like Fernando Torres, and when you play with 1 focal striker and the rest playing to service him, you cannot afford for that player to be so badly out of form. That position is like the quarter back position in American football, if that player has a bad game the whole team do! Assuming Rooney will be fit for the City game, I say we play Rooney as the focal striker with Welbeck playing off him, because if we keep faith with RVP were going to struggle again. Hes had enough chances to play his way back into form, so it's about time we give others a chance
RVP is the reason we are 15 points clear in the title so give him some respect. He did miss sitter against real Madrid and miss the chance against Chelsea but to compare him with Torres is laughable because whether he is not scoring goals, he is still helping the team and making inpact in matches, he did make some important off the line clearances. i'm sure he will be banging him them goals soon. to be honest i don't blame him, in League matches, we haven't created many chances of late recently. i'm sure he will start scoring goals again. Let's not slate him and give him our support.
with RVP hes only been getting 1,2 maybe 3 chances per game lately which isn't good enough, we need to get the ball to his feet more as he will make some space and have a go and we have to start having more bodies in the box with more crosses, the crosses have dried up aswell
We would still be miles clear in the league with or without RVP, don't forget Rooney got 26 goals last year playing in the main striker position, RVP has 18 so far, and is unlikely to get to 26. The reason we are so far clear is because City have fallen apart, not because we've significantly improved
To think some were ranking him above RVN earlier in the season. There is no way RVN would have let us down for pretty much the whole 2nd half of the season, in the way RVP has
agree we need to be grateful, but i feel he need to be rested more to keep him fresher and more thirsty and focused
rubbish you'd be neck and neck with city on points with their crap manager and unmotivated squad without him. He carried United up until recently
Can I point out that Rooney scored 26 goals last year playing in RVPs position. Had RVP not been around, I would be pretty certain that Rooney would have atleast equaled the 18 RVP has scored so far playing as a focal striker. People wrongly believe that just because a player is scoring the goals, that player is 'carrying' the team, when in actual fact those chances would just be falling to another player, a la Rooney who would be banging them in just aswell as RVP. We got to 88 points last year without RVP, so don't give me that rubbish, as 88 points will easily win The league this year. We haven't improved City have just become ****e
If that's the case why did Utd buy RVP in the first place?, if as you reckon Rooney could have equaled or bettered RVP's total this season it means SAF wasted big bucks and or is losing the plot. But Utd's current league position points to the manager knowing Rooney's capabilities and writing last seasons goalscoring exploits off ass a one off.
We mustn't forget that it was the mighty Wayne who had a major drought two seasons ago. RVP will get over his bout of form. You can't blame him for our season "falling apart" (seriously, woe is me we'll just have to fall back on our record breaking first three quarters of our league campaign ), when he was a big part in the reason why we got that far in the first place. How about a late equaliser to keep us in the FA cup 3rd round for starters... In the short term though i would agree that he shouldn't be the first name on the team sheet anymore. A rest and a sign that his place isn't secure might jog him back into gear. Rooney is our star man at the moment. While he's on the field we're still a potent side even without an on-form RVP, such is the advantage of having two world-class strikers.
agreed, how is he meant to score when we have been creating less chances to him recently? before we created hell lot of chances that's when he was scoring goals. We need to start creating more chances then eh will stat scoring, i don't know whats wrong with our player's at the moment, they are creating less chances then they did before, i think tiredness is also an issue and the mood of the player's since that 1-2 real madrid defeat has been low. that took away their confident abit. The OP also said this in the comments below that If we never had RVP we still would of been 15 points clear because Rooney would be playing main striker and last season he scored 26 goals, the fact is true, Rooney still might score many goals had we never got RVP and had he still been our main goal scoring player like last season BUT Rooney had an injury hit season, he was injured for alot of games, he missed many games, if we never had RVP, we would not have been 15 points clear.i'm sure as soon as we start creating chances, we will see Van Persie hitting them goals in.
agreed Van Persie will get his form back. agreed with the last bit, its great to have two world class players, at the start of the season and on to the middle of the season, Van persie has been banging them goals in while Rooney didn't score many, now when Van Persie not scoring many, Rooney is banging them goals in. It is such an great advantage to have two world class strikers.
This argument is totally nonsensical and childish. VanPersie would have scored a lot more had we got Valencia in last year's form. VanPersie is having to drop deep and that means less and less chances upfront. Rooney might give you goals upfront but Rooney is more than a goal scorer and the team will miss that. VanPersie, on the other hand, contrary to what the lad thinks of himself, is just a finisher and needs service, and they haven't been good this season.
f(u)cking hell, we do have a bunch of fannies out today, i was watching the Paddy crerand show earlier and there was 1 e-mail saying that we'll lose our 15 point lead, ffs, our fans do overreact at times, chill the f(u)ck out.
