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Ruddy to blame/Goalkeeper Options?

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by ChrisAcle08, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. ChrisAcle08

    ChrisAcle08 Active Member

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    What is Lambo going to do now?

    This was always a distinct possibility - I will admit to questioning some of Ruddy's performances last season early on in the campaign but ate humble pie as he has grown into the role more an more...

    However, I would love to get a better angle/view of his starting position and decision making when charging out to get the ball off Ramirez. He redeemed himself against Swansea last year but it was the same outcome in the giving away of a penalty in the first place. He has to learn that these players are looking to go down and are only interested in nicking the ball from the keeper in order to initiate contact. Some refs cannot wait to put that whistle to their lips! Do you think he was at fault or was it just good play (cheating) from Ramirez?

    Finally does anyboy know if Jed is on a recall from Yeovil?
    If not what the heck are we going to do?

    Sugestions guys...
     
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  2. Exile

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    24hr recall on Steer, so I'm sure he'll be on his way back. As for Ruddy, I think he was let down by those in front of him, actually. Rash it may have been, but it probably should have been stopped before it got to Ruddy. All in all, I think Ruddy's aquited himself well.
     
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  3. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    Looked like a dive from where I was sitting.
     
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  4. holt>god

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    I think Ruddy would ave been off his line allot quicker had he not knocked out Drogba before, which probably shook him a bit and made him hesita to come out to early. Saying that... He was very quick to pounce at Ramires' feet and probably should have stood up to him.
     
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  5. Exile

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    Got to say Beefy, from what I've seen I thought pen.
     
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    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    I am hoping he was sent off for a 'professional foul' - one match ban!
     
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  7. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    Seen it again and it was a foul ruddy got player first but it's just ridiculous isn't it? Is this what football is in the 21st century? Penalties and diving millionaire idiots.
     
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  8. canary-dave

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    There is no doubt that he'd decided he was going to ground whether there was contact or not! <ok>
     
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  9. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Can't really grumble about the penalty, but the red card was just plain ridiculous, changed the game entirely. Not saying for sure that he would because that would be crazy, but I'd have fancied Ruddy to have saved that spot-kick and then we'd have seen an entirely different final twenty minutes.

    Fantastic performance though, so many positives - can't wait for MotD tonight, we should dominate it I'd have thought, the other games sounded pretty dull
     
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  10. ChrisAcle08

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    It was a definite penalty. He touched the man (how much is a different question) and made no contact with the ball.

    It's just plain ridiculous though that one ref sends the man off and another chooses to yellow card (a la Sunderlands game against Liverpool in the first week). Replay both those situations side by side and I bet they would look almost identical apart from the differences in the referee's judgements.

    It's just so blimmin frustrating, especially as for the second week running the referee has spoilt my match prediction fom becomming a reality. I wonder how many of you thought I was nuts predicting a 2-1 win to Norwich yet with ten minutes of normal time remaining it didn't look out of the realms of possibilities!!!
     
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  11. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    Having seen it on the Internet I thought it was a penalty but a questionable sending off as Ramirez didn't have a clear scoring opportunity as he was moving away from the goal. Will be interested to see MOtD as there seemed a possibility that Ramirez was looking for contact rather than trying to score.Lambert was clearly annoyed about it after the match, so I'd say there is a good chance for an appeal against the red card this time.
     
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  12. Exile

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    My guess is we won't see an appeal for this red. It's one of those where it pretty much boils down to how one person reads the game. In those circumstances, the FA will only ever side with the ref. Would love to be wrong, though.
     
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  13. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Just seen it on MOTD. Stonewall pen. Beef you got it wrong with your protests. Not sure why the match thread got closed. The truth hurts I guess.
     
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    I closed it to stop it becoming a torrent of abuse, both sides need to calm down!
     
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  15. Kent canary

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    Ruddy was a star up to the penalty. We will miss him next game
     
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  16. Dazz19

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    Ramires was definitely looking for contact, but unfortunately if you make contact with the player in the area without getting the ball you're going to conceded a penalty.

    That being said the ref was always going to award a pen and send Ruddy off, the same as he was never going to give Torres a second yellow. There was no way he was going to risk being the ref in charge when Chelsea lost at home to little old Norwich. Had the incidents been reversed and it had been Holt in Torres place and Hilario in Ruddy's place, Holt would have received his second yellow and gone and Hilario would have stayed on the pitch.
     
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  17. Dangerous Marsupial

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    My opinion definite penalty, and by laws of the game therefore red card, but the saying 'rub of the green' can't be used in our case.
     
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  18. By the laws of the game it was a penalty, and therefore a red card was always coming along with it.

    Was he running away from goal? Probably.

    Was Pilks on the cover? Probably.

    Was the angle to tight for a straight easy tap in? Probably.

    It's just the way it is I guess. If I were calling the game, I probably would have given it and I probably would have given a red card for it, if i'm totally honest.

    My frustration comes from the fact Ramires was already on his way down BEFORE the contact was made.....and that Torres should have already been off the field.

    Ruddy should not have gone to ground, he should have styayed big and let Ramires run off the pitch. I'm sure he'll learn from it and come back a better player for it.
     
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  19. Exile

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    Ramires was definitely going down before there was contact, but I do wonder whether that was really an instinctive reaction to lessen the impact rather than diving.

    Torres though, should have gone. I can't believe that, although he had his eyes on the ball, he didn't know there was anyone else there for the first. The second was straight forward in my view, not the refs though!
     
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  20. SUPERNORWICH 23

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    Nailed on pen yesterday in the modern game , red card? maybe as he was the last man, but the other 2 pens and last games and the red, no way.... We will no doubt get another pen against us next match
     
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