I hope Carroll stays. His transfer was large but not so much his wages, so what's the point in a loan?
It will be the end of his Liverpool career if he goes out on loan imo. I really don't see any benefit whatsoever - he knows the PL and, like many other players, will know he won't be playing every single game.
Very smart by Rodgers in my opinion. Give him a chance to prove he's good enough or at least stop his value from falling. For all the potential he clearly has he was without doubt dreadful for the majority of last season and I think would only sit on the bench for most of the coming season. With Rodgers tactics and style of play it will work alot better with Suarez leading the front 3. It looks as if this will now be the case and if the Borini story is correct we would still have backup of Borini, Bellamy and possibly Morgan as 4th choice
The only reason I can see in favour of a loan is to take the pressure off the lad to allow him to develop. Every year at LFC he doesn't start every game & bang in 20+ goals a season the £35M is going to be thrown in his face. If he gets loaned to AC, the pressure from our Media is off, AC didn't pay £35m so expectation is lower. If he develops into the player everyone hopes he can, well he's still our player. If he doesn't, well then, in a couple of years he can be sold on for a loss but hopefully for him & us we will have had a more successful time of it & our media won't have quite the field day. I'm not sure I agree with this reasoning but it's a point of view.
First thing brendan has done to piss me off......Although I dont know if brendan has done anything except be questioned by the media. Carrolll was important for us the second part of last season and is really developing as a player......Would like to see him be part of our plans.....he can be unplayable at times and if he can do that regularly creating space for the likes of Suarez then he will go some way to justifying the initial fee. Fully support Carroll all the way, he worked really hard to improve for us last year, and this news seems to disrespect that effort somewhat.
Unbelievable! one of the worlds most expensive strikers sent out on loan to learn his trade. It highlights the strange fit of Brendan Rogers to this Liverpool squad.
Stops his value falling by warming our bench and gives him a chance to build on his form and either retain value, for sale next summer, or return to the team as a key player. I think a loan is far and away the best option for Carroll
Well Rodgers is the boss and if he thinks Carroll needs to move on then so be it. It seems a strange choice to me though.
I can see the reasoning behind a loan move. I think English players would learn a great deal more by playing overseas and it should benefit Andy from a technical point of view. However, if this were to happen, we'd be back to square one i.e. one striker out, one striker in (Borini) and our striker options are once again limited. I'd still keep Carroll - I feel he showed good form towards the end of last season and in the Euro's and I feel he has a place in the squad at least. Definately brings another dimension to our attack.
How so luv? do you really think Carroll will/should be our main man this season? If so then fair enough, I understand your reason against his loan, but if not, why keep him on the bench? We all know Carroll lacks confidence and playing time so why not let another club take that risk for a year and give him first team experience. I also think being at a club as a loanee will take the pressure off rather than being at a club that signed him for 35million.
Agreed. There is no doubt that Carroll struggled last season. At times, he simply wasn't good enough and I think everyone knew that. However, he improved massively towards the end of last season and looked like the player we brought from Newcastle. He then went to the Euros and put in good performances for England. This news will hardly boost the lad's confidence, will it? I still think he'll be a Liverpool player come the 1st of September though. We can't afford to let a striker go and have even less options up-front.
We were talking about this yesterday. I thought that Carroll was like Graham so would fit Rodgers style. I can't say I've changed my mind overnight. I may be reading between the lines here but Rodgers said he spoke to Carroll and he knows where he stands and then this today. Has Carroll moaned about the style or said that he thinks it doesn't suit him and is this the reason for Rodgers comments, specially the comment. "They might have all the attributes but not the mentality to play"
Don't understand the Carroll thing, would have thought he would be the lone front man. I'm a Swans fan so don't know your team intimately but I would have expected your team to look like; ---------------Reina---------------- -------Skrtel------Agger----------- Johnson------------------Enrique- --------Gerrard---???????--------- Suarez-------???????-----???????? ---------------Carroll--------------- Sending Carroll out seems like a waste of resources. Also Bellamy being linked with a move!!! Surely you need to keep him as he covers so many forward positions?? The ideal substitute. IMO Borini is a good signing as he covers Centre Forward and the 3 positions behind. I would be expecting first class signings for AM, LW and Either centre mid (not sure if this is a problem position for you or not? You seem to have lots of personnel there) or CF...A genuine CF like Carroll and let the 2 of them duke it out. If I was Brendan I'd be looking to offload several in midfield, not Carroll.
That's why I'm not sure I'd agree. We Paid 35m for him, went through that horrible first year of intense pressure, return to fitness, return to form, for what? To allow another team to enjoy the fruits of our Labour? Doesn't make sense to me. I understand what Luv is saying. If BR reviews the squad, plays Some preseason and comes to the conclusion that Carroll just can't do what he wants him to do (& that includes any existing player) then so be it, under those circumstances all we could do is loan him out, let him renew his reputation & sell him on later. Personally? I can't see how any player can't adopt any system unless they can't be arsed so this automatic assumption that a player "wont fit" is illogical. I think a winning squad provides more answers than questions put to them. Carroll is an answer to certain tactics adopted by certain teams.
Perhaps it is just psychology, Carroll seems quite laid back, and rumours are he likes a drink now and then, It could be that Rodgers is just trying to light a fire under his arse. Give one hundred and fifty per cent or go. Your choice.
I think we're all making too much of it. He said he'll access every player in the squad, he won't comment on what's happening until it happens, he can never say never because things change fast. That's all.
This, why the BBC had to use it as a headline story, I don't know. I suppose there might be some truth in it, but if he does not fancy him then flog him for £20 mil, sure there would be a few takers.
mmm this could make sense I suppose, every player needs to know they need to improve on last season or it will not be tolerated. The only thing is Carroll seemed to be lacking in confidence for a large chunk of last season - will this kind of motivation work with him? I don't want to see him loaned out for the simple reason that we will need a bigger squad this yr to compete in the Europa - he will get more opportunities to play and he is a beast of a striker when on form...
It's a very odd fit to link Carroll to an Ac Milan loan move. Firstly, we will get next to nothing for the loan move. Milan have absolute zero money, and their president has already admitted their transfer window is over in terms of permanent transfers. Secondly, the chance they're going to buy him at the end of the season, and for the money we want for him is very very unlikely. They are short of cash, and from the looks of it they'll be short of cash at the end of the season too. Thirdly, who's saying he'll get a game at Milan to improve? They have some very good forwards, and if they need a 6ft+ striker who can score with their head, then Ibra will be first pick. Although... Just training with Milan will improve his technical ability, and adding a bit of Italian football to his repertoire can only be beneficial to the way he plays.
