so yesterday Wimbledon fans gaveRobinson stick and a lot of our fans take offence and think it’s odd and wrong. What’s wrong is our fans not understanding it. He was the figure head of their nemesis it’s obvious and acceptable that they dislike .Gobbo What has our fan base what’s left of it become .
It was obvious the AFC fans were going to give Robinson abuse. A dozen loud choruses of "F*** off Karl Robinson" or "You know what you are, Franchise B*****d you know what you are" were met sometimes (but not every time) by less noisy chants of "who the - - are you" or "Robinson's Red army". Just the usual banter between sets of fans who have something specific they disagree about. The match is over - we even won! - so why is anybody still upset about it? Personally I think the warmth with which some of our fans have taken to Karl Robinson is a bit premature. Singing his name is fair enough; after all we have made a very good start to the season and most people appreciate a winner. But KR has tried too hard in my view to portray himself as the fans' hero, who seems to have more love for the Club than most people would expect. I'm not overly keen on hearing him being asked to "give us a wave" (neither is he I think) or him jumping out of the tunnel after a fairly routine home win. Still, some in the North stand enjoy it in the heat of the moment so good luck to them. However, to my mind KR is not 'one of us' and even if he were, I would still not get too upset if some rival fans wanted to slate him for some offence he apparently gave them. Robinson is a big boy. He can take it.
Apparently several fans overheard him shouting at the Womble fans to f***off. Which undoubtedly means he'll get even more stick off them in future. Not very Curbs or Lennie or SCP, or even Parky. More pardew. Or Roger johnson.
I'm surprised to hear that KR reacted to the abuse from the AFC fans. To actually shout back at them doesn't reflect very well on him. Granted he is only human and he might have lost his rag for a moment in the tense atmosphere of the technical area, but still it's not a very professional way to behave. I'm not 100% sure of this but I don't think Karl Robinson ever managed MK Dons in a league fixture against AFC Wimbledon. He was sacked by MK in late October 2016 - during AFC's first season in League One - and the Franchise did not play the Wombles in the league until 10th December that season. Robinson was the Franchise manager during three Cup encounters with AFC Wimbledon (1 x FA Cup, 1 x League Cup, 1 x JPT) so he doubtless would have copped some abuse at those fixtures. However, I think all three of those games were at the Stadium MK. When Charlton go to Kingsmeadow later this season it will be Robinson's first ever game there. How will he react when he is in the away dugout? As you say FHB, Robinson's behaviour - if the reports are true - does smack rather of Pardew or Johnson. KR's ridiculous comments about a conspiracy of referees back in August when Charlton had two players sent off was another indicator of this slightly manic instability.
as much as I dislike the franchise and everything they stand for, if people are going to shout abuse at me for 90 minutes then I’m saying something back. The best thing KR could do is take 3 points from them, which he did!
All he's done is to ramp up the level of abuse he'll get when we visit their ground. His best bet would be to pretend not to hear it. And the Wombles have got their target wrong: it wasn't KR who took them away from Plough Lane, it was the Norwegian owners.
Why should any human being be expected to take abuse for 90 minutes and not retaliate? Robinson wears his heart on his sleeve and is very passionate, which I like.The Dons fans who throw up their hands in mock horror when he retaliates after abusing him for 90 minutes are hypocrites. I really don't understand why some Charlton fans don't like him. Yes he talks too much, but I don't care about that as long as he gets results on the pitch. He has made us much more professional behind the scenes. We are much fitter as a team. We are well organised. Let's see where we are in January to see if RD or the new owner backs him in the transfer window.
There's a good 25-minute interview by a fan with KR on ITTV and CL. I don't know where it comes from or how to put it on here, but I must say he comes over very well, and I take to him a bit more after watching it.
I wouldn't know how to transfer it either. If I did I would bring it over from CL for the convenience of other not606 members who would like to see it. Can't say I would watch it myself though. Personally I'm past listening to anything the regime says. All that counts for me is what they do. Robinson is doing well at the moment, and I hope he can pull off a promotion for us this season, to hasten the day when RD becomes our past rather than our present. But KR isn't one of us in my opinion, and he never will be.
Here is the link. I don't understand what you mean by one of us? @lardiman. No Manager will be one of us because by definition they are not a Charlton fan. If you mean he will never be accepted because you feel he is part of the regime, I will have to disagree with you. If he gets us promoted that will do for me.
I just hope that if he does get us promoted then that will clinch the sale of our club. And KR will have earned himself a new contract. I also hope that if he fails to get us promoted then that also persuades Roland to bale out.
Thanks for the link DickPlumb I was only speaking fort myself. I recognise other fans will all have different opinions. For my part I will never 'accept' him (as in like him) because he is part of the RD regime. To me he is even more complicit than the head coaches we used to get foisted on us, because they were already employees of RD and were just doing what they were told. Robinson, like Russell Slade, chose to take on the job. KR is not a Charlton fan, so he has no reason to be offended by anything Duchatelet and Meire have done. So when he speaks out in defence of his bosses he can do it with a clear conscience. KR can continue to try to win over Charlton fans by saying the right things in interviews, that's up to him. However he cannot believe every fan will warm to him or begin to like him because of his charming personality. Results on the pitch are earning him the respect of many fans, including me. But as I've said before I have no problem respecting somebody's achievements without liking the person themselves. If KR wins us promotion you won't hear me complaining about it. But neither will you hear me singing his name.
Oddly enough, we never used to sing Curbs' name, at least not until the Blackburn Rovers game which was his last home game. I never sang Super alan pardew, because I disliked him ever since his red card for spitting at an opponent, but plenty of fans did, right up until about 3 weeks before the chant morphed into We Want pardew Out. I liked Uncle Les, was desperate for him to succeed, but boy was he hopeless as a manager. I also liked Parky, but only remember his name being chanted once or twice, we were a sinking ship by then. Then came the ever-popular SCP, who received more adulation than anyone. Then Jose-Riga-Baby, then Bob Peeters, with no hair. I don't remember Luzon(i may be wrong), Fraeye, or Slade getting there names chanted though, although by then I was boycotting.
It’s worth listening to the Magic Sponge podcast from last week with John Salako. They touch upon Pardew (nicknamed chocolate as he loves himself so much) and the fact he believed Pardew would have planned the Wembley dance before the game. Dickhead. Also good point from billy, I don’t remember many curbs songs.
Curbs may be revered now, but I think he wanted to be respected, rather than liked, by the fans, and that respect worked both ways, because of the efforts by the fans to get back to the Valley.
