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Robin Van Persie better get ready for some booing next season lol

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  1. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    The Arsenal fans will boo him.

    The Manc club that he doesn't join will boo him.

    Spurs and Chelsea fans will boo him for being ex-Arsenal.

    Roflmao

    So 4 of the top 5 teams will be booing him ferociously, and It'll be even funnier when he scores against them XD
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    He'll get what he deserves, he has brought it on himself. Another footballer/self publicist. He is a cracking player but he has quickly forgotten that Arsenal have stuck by him for many years while most said they should discard because of injuries. I think last season was the first time in 8 years he's played more than 30 of the 38 league games. I read somewhere that if you took last season out of it, he only averaged 22 league games a season over the previous 7 seasons.

    How true that is I don't know but if you're missing nearly a third of the league games every season, yet the club is paying all those expensive medical bills and sticking by you, then I think you owe them. He moaned about their spending, well they've invested 45m on 3 good players in Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla. That is significant in todays market. To me it all wreaks badly of greed.
     
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  3. Jesus Was A Geordie

    Jesus Was A Geordie Well-Known Member

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    Last season was the ONLY time in his whole career he has played over 30 league games in a season!
     
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  4. Four2Three1©

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    What's wrong with playing until the end of your contract?
    He's not even asked for a transfer? What's he done wrong?

    Or should he watch the likes of Kolo Toure, Clichy and Nasri pick up trophies while he stays at Arsenal and wins nothing?

    If anyone's to blame for the situation - it's the Arsenal board... If they'd have spent like they have this summer in the past they wouldn't be losing their best players every year.

    Saying this... He might not even leave Arsenal this summer.
     
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  5. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Clearly you have no understanding of loyalty
     
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    You actually expect any footballers to be loyal these days? And it not as if clubs themselves are loyal to all of their players..

    He's not asking for a move 'Torres-style'... He's playing until the end of his contract..
     
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    It's not like we should expect them to be 100% in love with the clubs they're at, but they should show respect to the club they are playing for at least, and at least give half a **** about the fans that pay for their season tickets which pays their ridiculously massive wages.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    After 8 years in which he has only managed to play 30 league games once, has cost a fortune in medical bills, yet still paid him his contract in full? Yep I'd say Arsenal have been pretty loyal to him! I'm not suggesting that many players are, they clearly are not. Which is precisely whats wrong and why they're a complete bunch of greedy ****s.
     
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    What he's done is no different to Adebayor or Nasri to be honest... Except that he hasn't even asked for a move.
    I don't think he doesn't give "half a ****"... I think he's wanted out for a while now, but couldn't bring himself to really say it before..

    I'm still not convinced he's going anywhere anyway... Arsenal may have finally shown enough ambition to make him sign a new deal..

    I'm not particularly keen on spending £22 million on him anyway... So hope he stays.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Been a greedy mercenary, yes I agree.
     
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    I actually get the impression it isn't all about money with Van Persie...
    He's watched Kolo, Clichy and Nasri pick up a couple of trophies... Watched Ashley Cole pick up multiple trophies... And understandbly, wants them too..
    Whilst Adebayor clearly left Arsenal for money.

    But the way Arsenal are spending with intent, he may well sign a new contract.
     
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  12. Darth Plagueis

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    That doesn't make him any less of a **** really. The main reason I hate him, is his attitude on the pitch, his pig headedness, and the fact that he was average up until around the middle of the 2010/11 season, then he started playing well, and soon after started to look elsewhere.

    Arsenal fans stuck with him through his **** years. He plays this well for less than a seasons worth of games, and he starts looking for opportunities elsewhere.

    He owes Arsenal big time.

    The fact that he could leave isn't necessarily what is pissing Arsenal fans off, it's the fact that he was planning it for a while and doesn't appreciate how Arsenal have stood by him all these years.
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Well each to their own. To me he is looking for one big bumper contract before he heads off to someone unknown country to help "further" the game. He's 29 and he knows this is his last chance to get a bumper deal before he goes to a nothing league for silly money. I hope Arsenal make him rot but they won't, they'll sell him. Anything over 20m and they've had the buyer given his age. Sorry if I'm cynical but I just think footballers are as slimy as their agents.
     
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    This is a bit of a hobby horse of mine, but I always regard complaints about players loyalty as hypocritical nonsense.

    What club would delibarately hang on to a second rate player if they could get a better one instead ? What set of fans would want their club to be "loyal" to a poorly performing player rather than get the bestthat is available ?

    None. We want the best and will flog or cut anyone who we don't think is the best as soon as a decent opportunity presents itself. Alan Smith vital to our promotion from the Championship ? That was in the past, get rid. Sometime better available as a straight swap for Jonas ? Hasta la vista, Spidey.

    No one thinks twice about it. If a player sees an opportunity to play for a bettere club, though, then he's a disloyal mercenary.

    You can't expect more loyalty than your willing to offer. Clubs and fans offer none to the players. They're not entitled to any in return.
     
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    See above. I think they're as slimy as the fans.
     
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  16. Four2Three1©

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    I agree... Loyalty... Arshavin being booed... Eboue being booed.
    Stick by your players comes to mind.
    Clubs themselves get rid of players when they feel like it... Whilst fans are fickle.

    Footballers are no different to people in regular jobs... They all want to better their careers, which will involve making more money along the way... and may involve upsetting a few people along the way.
    If all Van Persie cared about was money he'd be asking to be sent off to China... Arsenal would gladly take that option. They'd get much more money for him, they'd never play against him, and he'd get paid more in wages..

    I don't get why any and every player who joins a richer team is suddenly a "mercenary"... The teams who have the most money win the most trophies.. People said barry was lying when he said he joined City over Liverpool because he wanted to win trophies. That he "only" went for the money.
    Well Barry has a premier league medal... Stevie (One club) Gerrard doesn't..

    There are clear cases of mercenaries - Adebayor, as an example..

    But not all footballers should get tarnished with the same brush.
    Or is every single footballer that moves to a bigger club who will pay him more, a money grabber?
    Is Mike Williamson one? Or James Perch?

    Is Rodwell now a mercenary? Or is he maybe just more excited by the prospect of playing alongside Silva and Toure than Gibson and Osman... Maybe he'd rather play Champions League football and challenge for trophies. Or does he owe his whole career to Everton regardless of whether they match his ambitions...?

    What if we were to find out Everton forced the move through?
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I disagree I think the Arsenal have been pretty loyal to RVP. Indeed they have a pretty good record when it comes to being loyal to players. They have put up with his ****e start, his ridiculous injury record, still paid him a fortune and all his medical and then the moment he becoems the player they'd always thought and stayed loyal to, he ****s off because he is looking for a payday.

    Nah he's a ****ebag and deserves a good booing!
     
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    Bad example. He wasn't actually trying and was on the lash all the time. Eboue fair enough though.
     
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    Arsenal didn't stick with Van Persie out of any sense of loyalty to Van Persie, though - - they stuck with him because they thought it was in their best interests to do so. That isn't loyalty, it's asset management.

    If I hold onto a stock which has gone down because I think it will go up if I hold it long enough, I'm not being "loyal" to the stock.

    A club would only be showing loyalty to a player if they continued to hire him when they thought they would be better off without him. This virtually never happens, and the fans wouldn't be happy if it did.

    Perhaps I can conceive of a situation if, for example, Shearer had stuck around too long, that the club might have paid/played him just because of his past glories, but frankly I doubt that would have happened even with big Al. There's no chance of it happening in any other situation.

    Players are commodities to the clubs and to the fans. if you're always willing to ditch your lass the moment someone fitter is available, then you cna't expect her to pine for you by the fireside.

    And putting up with her bad mood while it's her period because you think the sex will be fantastic when the time of the month has passed doesn't count as loyalty either.
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    We'll have to agree to disagree. I think the players should show loyalty to a club, and football would be a lot better off if they did. Its not like any other profession and therefore you can't apply the same rules. Lets be honest here, RVP was basically a crock for 6 years. He missed a third of the league games every season. Sometimes a lot more. They didn't stick with him for only self interest. Wenger liked the lad and believed in him, he believes in nuturing players.

    He has been royally ****ed by said players in favour of a quick buck. I'm sure if you'd told him at the start, look you'll sign this lad and he won't be much use for a while because of injury. But then he'll get really good and you sticking by him will be repaid by him ****ing off to your rivals, he'd have thought "you know what I'll invest my time in someone else"

    It would be like saying that Ben Arfa owes Newcastle **** all. He does and he knows it. He has said as much. The idea that a player just signs a contract and he owes a club nothing is not only wrong, its a pretty depressing thought.
     
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