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Which transfer windows ?? Those of 2018-19 ??

If so, the manager stated why there were no incomings.
Whether you believe him (his decisions, the rationale behind them)
or not is your business.

He’s also had meltdowns to suggest he’s back tracking and is unsure himself...I certainly believe what my eyes show me
 
So you can’t separate how the emphasis is one but not the other? Orareyou telling me they are in perfect harmony?
I think bring through the youngsters is almost in harmony. However, what is missing is a few wise old heads, these don't have to be expensive and can be on short contracts, the likes of Davids is an obvious example.
 
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You made the claim. Explain how decisions would be different to optimise value to shareholders or trophies.

I’ve made the claim based on what I see and have seen to be the result of all the number crunching everyone enjoys doing

Great business model and currently no panic because we are not missing out on CL thus far with not much real intent on creating a team equipped to seriously challenge for anything. So long as we are doing enough to get CL football all is well.

ENIC who you worship aren’t very good at optimising trophies so you can’t expect me to help them out, they are hopeless so far...fantastic stadium and spreadsheet though.
 
I think bring through the youngsters is almost in harmony. However, what is missing is a few wise old heads, these don't have to be expensive and can be on short contracts, the likes of Davids is an obvious example.

I’d take that but there’s a few fans who think everything the owners do is part of some grand scheme to take us to the promised land...whilst I have my doubts about them ever being so focused on the team, ever.
 
I’d take that but there’s a few fans who think everything the owners do is part of some grand scheme to take us to the promised land...whilst I have my doubts about them ever being so focused on the team, ever.
I don't agree, the first investment was the state of the art training centre. That was directed at improving the on field side of things.
 
I don't agree, the first investment was the state of the art training centre. That was directed at improving the on field side of things.

The Academy appears to be nominally working.
Specifically, producing talent that reaches the seniors and :

1. Endures, and are so good they cannot be acquired for
love nor money (Kane)

2. Become reasonable squad players (Winks)

3. Do not endure but can be sold to other clubs (resulting
at the minimum in break-even for the club and a decent
career for the player) .
 
ENIC who you worship aren’t very good at optimising trophies so you can’t expect me to help them out, they are hopeless so far...fantastic stadium and spreadsheet though.

Which clubs are good at "optimising trophies" then
(how many million do they spend to get each trophy, are they
spending far too much for each one etc) ??
 
I’d take that but there’s a few fans who think everything the owners do is part of some grand scheme to take us to the promised land...whilst I have my doubts about them ever being so focused on the team, ever.

I guess the real litmus test of this will be if ENIC sell up in the near future. The impression I get is that Levy does care deeply for the club. He grew up watching us from the terraces. Lewis on the other hand is about as disconnected an owner as has ever existed in the history of football. My gut feeling is that his long game has always been to grow us as an asset and then sell high. As long as Levy remains chairman making the actual decisions I couldn't care less if some American or Chinese magnate bought us.
 
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I’d take that but there’s a few fans who think everything the owners do is part of some grand scheme to take us to the promised land...whilst I have my doubts about them ever being so focused on the team, ever.

Sorry repeat post
 
I guess the real litmus test of this will be if ENIC sell up in the near future. The impression I get is that Levy does care deeply for the club. He grew up watching us from the terraces. Lewis on the other hand is about as disconnected an owner as has ever existed in the history of football. My gut feeling is that his long game has always been to grow us as an asset and then sell high. As long as Levy remains chairman making the actual decisions I couldn't care less if some American or Chinese magnate bought us.
This, I could have written this myself.
 
I guess the real litmus test of this will be if ENIC sell up in the near future. The impression I get is that Levy does care deeply for the club. He grew up watching us from the terraces. Lewis on the other hand is about as disconnected an owner as has ever existed in the history of football. My gut feeling is that his long game has always been to grow us as an asset and then sell high. As long as Levy remains chairman making the actual decisions I couldn't care less if some American or Chinese magnate bought us.

I can believe that but ultimately Joe's vision reflects on Levy and he seems content with that. I've also said Levy should stay on as chief accountant...it's the least he deserves if we get sold.
 
I don't agree, the first investment was the state of the art training centre. That was directed at improving the on field side of things.

Of course we will benefit from some of ENICs decisions but I'm not convinced much is done to improve the team...that's just the collateral to building an attractive asset(training facilities) for future sale. Some people think to suggest the owners dip into their own pockets to strengthen the team is criminal but I think it's an obvious thing to do if you think you own a brand worth north of a Billion quid.

But I'm talking about owners who take pride in seeing their team become winners not ENIC
 
There’s a balance to be struck...thus far it’s a bit lop sided.

Business>Football is the ENIC way

I refuse to buy into the notion that we risk going bust if we spend in the transfer window.

Not sure anyone has said that...my point is about the ****ers like Harryhotspur and pundits/ media outlets demanding we take risks.

We didn't buy cos pochettino did not want those players who were affordable...he has said this himself...apart from Grealish who we appeared to have screwed up the deal for (thankfully :bandit:).

If we fpend £150m in the summer I would trust it was because they have properly costed it...unlike the 29 clubs listed.
 
OSome people think to suggest the owners dip into their own pockets to strengthen the team is criminal but I think it's an obvious thing to do if you think you own a brand worth north of a Billion quid.
Definitely not criminal but it is against FFP rules.
 
Definitely not criminal but it is against FFP rules.
Sort of. If uncle Joe wanted to, he could legally pay off the monies outstanding on the stadium, in fact the whole Northumberland development and not fall foul of the FFP regs. This would then free up monies to sign players, which would otherwise be used to pay the stadium mortgage.
 
Sort of. If uncle Joe wanted to, he could legally pay off the monies outstanding on the stadium, in fact the whole Northumberland development and not fall foul of the FFP regs. This would then free up monies to sign players, which would otherwise be used to pay the stadium mortgage.
That's true from now on, but would have a very limited effect in the past as the debt outstanding has only recently become material. Even now I doubt we are paying more than £20m per annum interest and less in depreciation so that would be the maximum additional expenditure we could make.
 
That's true from now on, but would have a very limited effect in the past as the debt outstanding has only recently become material. Even now I doubt we are paying more than £20m per annum interest and less in depreciation so that would be the maximum additional expenditure we could make.
Yes, but it will not interest only, there will be capital repayment as well. Probably about £50M per annum. I'm guessing it would free up £70-80M per annum.
 
Yes, but it will not interest only, there will be capital repayment as well. Probably about £50M per annum. I'm guessing it would free up £70-80M per annum.
I'd be amazed if we depreciated the stadium over less than 30 years for FFP purposes.