So how is the republic debate these days? England any closer to shaking off the shackles yet, or will she be mired in the past forever?
How are the Ashes these days? Any chance the Aussies will win them back or are they still mired in the past forever?
We've been in deep **** for quite a while now, you guys have well and truly had the wood on us. But we live in hope of returning to the top of the tree where we rightly belong.
We republicans want shot of the Union Jack on our flag. We want to replace it with a can of piss and a meat pie.
Today's trivia question: Who is Australia's Head of State? Ans: [NSFW]The Head of State is HM Queen Elizabeth II, who is represented by the Governor General, currently Quentin Bryce. [/NSFW]
What a daft question. Here's a better one: Do indigenous Australians still live in abject poverty as second class citizens to their white oppressors?
Any thinking person can see that the indigenous peoples of this country are treated appallingly. The problems are manifest and not easily fixed, and not nearly enough is being done to remedy the problems, but in no way takes away the right of the citizens of this country to decide their own fate.
We tried a republic, under Oliver Cromwell. Didn't really work out. I hope you lot pay a fee to use the Union Jack on your flag. Otherwise we've missed a trick there, this being a global free market where everything has it's price.
As banter-ish as I take this, I'm afraid I have to step in and say the debate is being prolonged by english (The Scottish and Welsh fecking hate her) people who take pride in something that they know nothing about, it's indoctrinated in the religious and the stoic, and provides comfort to the crazy or lowly. It's not technically a "debate" when the opposition can't defend themselves with a logical answer, and monarchists have not had a "logical" answer since the scientific revolution. Here is a summary of hilarious attempts to justify an non-elected freak-show family enjoying dominion: 1. "But they bring in so much tourism to the country"... Do they feck, because you're as likely to spot her dottering around town as in her official residences. It's the lavish historical buildings which bring in tourism. The Hall of Versailles brings in double the tourists that ALL the Queen's residences do. Chop off her head, open up the whole residence to viewers and we'll rake it in according to that precedence. 2. "The Queen is head of the military"... So what? I'd like to see her charge into bloody combat on a gleaming stallion... I'd give her three seconds against the snipers. Remove the useless cow and we can have a veteran in charge. 3. "The Queen has the most recognisable face on the planet"... Ok Heat magazine, calm down. Let's just put Beckham on our stamps, ok? 4. "The Queen represents <insert made-up-crap-here>"... The monarchy of this country represent death and destruction of land, religious persecution, frivolous finances (which would make these Bankers look like Saints) and inherent selfishness. The fact we traditionally took pride in that 200 years ago just shows how stupid we were. 5. "The Queen make money for charity"... Awwww, how lovely for her... She can put that on her CV when she's looking for a job at Asda. Pretty much ever country has embassadors who do a similar job, and we have tonnes of potential candidates in the citizen corpus, so let's democratically elect one. 6. "The Tradition <bla bla bla"... Of incest and poor genetic diversity owing to the close-knit marriages of medieval kingdoms? Spiffing... 7. "She prevents a Republic, which could be dangerous"... You mean a democratic state where the electorate have more power in proportion with the political parties? Oh how positively terrifying... Why did the current economic powerhouses (all Republics, barring the oil-rich Islands and desert lands, but then we are not oil-rich or a desert land, are we?) ever get rid of their lovely monarchy? 8. "She's head of the Church, God says so"... Usually direct communication to "God" is a sign of mental illness, but taking this as a statement of fact from a religious person is impossible to argue with. Why? No logical components, and whatever factual argument you present is void because "god did it"... Now, religious belief is fine by me, whatever gets you through the days, but you should know that if you read a book not written by the greatest fiction writers of 2000 years ago (just joking), it is traceable to find the point where Monarchy attached itself to "God" to make it more desperately relevant to the embittered masses. And it wasn't when Henry decided he was randy enough to form his own Church... Although that helped. 9. "The monarchy created an Empire and Commonwealth which made Britain what it is!"... Yeah, hated by everyone. Countries pulling out left right and bloody centre because being associated with this evil old tyrant is mortifying to the very core. Etc Etc Oh well, let's all wave our bloody Union Jacks and sing "God Save the Queen", when actually we've saved her from being a great-great-great grandmother, swilling Stella from a bottle in an effort to brush her one remaining tooth, as she glances at the Sun in her council flat... Aside from that, England will walk the Ashes once more!
JPF for president I like the "the last time we had a Republic, we got a dictator" argument. The last time Scotland had an official king of our own, he ****ed off to London and set about publishing a bible. The last time we had an unofficial king, he wiped out half of Uganda.
Brilliant post by archers road. Here is the type of person we are dealing with. Nice work if you can get it. http://www.republic.org.uk/updates/?p=555
Which countries are pulling out of the Commonwealth, "left, right and bloody centre"? Also, to say that the Scottish and Welsh hate her is absolute bollocks.
I am outside... Anyway, now I have done the research, put forward my point and expressed my opinion, I think that yes, I shall enjoy the sunshine some more before the storms come back Thanks for you're succinct and half-arsed evaluation
