Who on here thinks being relegated last year has actually done us the world of good ?? I know it was terrible for us all but was it now (in hind sight) such a bad thing ?? Because of relegation we've been able to get rid of a lot of the mercenaries who just seemed to be here for the dosh, the atmosphere around the place from fans and the players alike just seems to be getting better and most importantly of all, we are actually WINNING games !! Who would swap where we are now (and the hope of a more succesful and prolonged return to the PL) for another season of losing every week with a team who didn't give a f***.
I see no reason why Redknapp couldn't have performed the same revolution during the Summer had the Rs not been relegated, so on balance would have preferred to have not been relegated.
But it would have been a lot more difficult to find the 'right sort' who were also premiership quality. The likes of Dunne and Henry will not play next year if we go up. As Flyer keeps pointing out, we will need another clear-out in the summer. Perhaps HR was happy to go down?
It's not about wanting to be relegated........More about could it of been for the greater good. I don't think you would found many (if any) who WANT us relegated.
Disgagree. HR could have offloaded the dead weight anyway but could have kept the likes of Remy. He could also undoubtedly have attracted the likes of Dawson and Defoe around which to build a hard working PL team. TF's and more importantly Mittal's enthusiasm would have been rekindled and we could have cracked on with delivering their vision of a club challenging for honours with a ground to match. As it is we have at least a year in limbo when all kinds of things can go wrong including our owner's patience giving out. It's no coincidence that we have heard little about a new ground in the last few months - no one is going to invest more millions if it looks like we are going to do a Wolves. I like to think that both our main owners have a degree of common sense and that they will look to the longer term but you can never tell when the ego bashing that is QPR will get the better of them.
Irrelevant...the past is a different country. It happened....what is happening now is what is important. The owners can still walk out....more of a possibility if we are not promoted, that is what is worrying me....and it is a long way to go. We a Rangers, Rollercoaster Rangers.....we just need to keep doing what we are doing at this moment in time...lets not worry about the past, or worry about Remy, Samba, Tarbs...just worry about Saturday....
I think Staines was trying to make the best of a bad event and I know what he means. Its nice to be winning games again that's for sure!
To be honest i am a bit divided on whether it was a good or a bad thing, just wanted a few differing views on the subject.
It was the only way for us to grow, I believe. I'm not sure if we ever would have eventually got it right if we'd managed to scrape out a survival. I think this will make us a better, smarter club in the long term.
The most depressing thing about the Premiership is the cartel that sits at the top. I know people might say that this year things have changed, but honestly it's just different 'big' teams at the top - it's just a shuffle and that's what makes the PL a bit dull. I found the last two years a chastening experience, and one which I can't see changing dramatically if we manage to go up. There will always be teams that have the resources to buy the league - and the prospect of maybe attaining mid table obscurity at best is not the most attractive one. Of course I want us to play against the best teams, and to see the best football, but week after week of losing becomes profoundly dispiriting - you feel your hope ebbing away, and the weekends are not anticipated quite so eagerly. This season it feels like we have begun to get our club back - Rangers are not (and will probably never be in my lifetime) a 'big' club... we are a family, we suffer more than our fair share of hard times so the rare successes that come around feel all the sweeter. I never wanted to support a ManU - they don't know what being a football fan is about as far as I'm concerned. In hindsight (as the OP asks) relegation last season was probably good for us in terms of a proper rebuilding of the squad and clearing out of the shirkers - I'm not clear that we would have been able to get rid of the players that we have if we had survived - and as a result we have acted in a more responsible and considered manner. TF & Co have learned that chucking money at it isn't the way forward for us, and if we are promoted the ongoing construction of the team will inevitably (I hope) be conducted in a very different manner. I watched the 2010/11 highlights the other day, and it put a massive smile on my face - we were unstoppable - the fans were brilliant - it was glorious! I suppose what this all means is that I'm conflicted - I want us to win, and to play great football and I don't want relegations and struggle, yet that is what QPR is all about. I'll take whatever comes.
Me too. Its especially bitter sweet for me at the moment as all my Palace supporting mates and colleagues are wondering if being in the Prem is that good after all!!
We needed to regroup and I think it would have been a harder job to do the prem so I agree with your post Staines and I also agree that I would never like to us relegated. I one thing that I wonder about is IF we get promoted the feel good factor that we are experiencing at the moment will only come once and a while so my question is do we want to be a big fish in a little pond or a tiny fish in a big pond? Which leads me to another question can we be a happy & successful tiny fish, well at least for the next few years?
The main thing I'd say on this matter is that at the very least relegation forced us to get rid of the deadwood out of our squad. Going forward I hope we keep the identity of the club which we're rebuilding this season. Honest and committed players, and a positive vibe on and off the pitch which the supporters are relating to. We'll be in a much better position next season to compete in the Prem if we do go up. Young players tied up to contracts - Austin, Hoillet, Matt Phillips Experienced Prem players in the squad - Joey Barton, Rob Green, Richard Dunne, Danny Simpson Lessons have been learnt, and we're heading in the right direction
As a club we simply were not ready to go up. Everything about the club was light years behind where we should have been. 15 years away from top flight football left us with a lot of catching up to do. So many of the decisions made over the last few years smack of desperation and inexperience. I think we are now slowly learning to walk before we run. I fully understand the OP. Nobody wanted to see us relegated but deep down we knew it would give us the chance to catch our breath and start rebuilding slowly and properly
