Who will get a vote? http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/story-13645752-detail/story.html Will the Allams even talk to the council again?
a referendum serves no purpose other than to incur a stack of cost. if the council wins the referendum, Mr Allam moves to Melton because the council will be increasingly beligerent in negotiations. If the council loses Mr Allam still moves as the council will make it impossible to accept the political defeat. Please Mr Allam, avoid a stack of cost which the rate payers can ill afford and move anyway. Lets see what will happen to another HCC white elephant after your decision is made? Maybe Mr Geraghty's Humberside Hockey team will move in?
I don't think the council have closed the door and commited themselves yet. It says they won't let Mr Allam have the freehold "without a "robust" offer and business case being put forward." So they can accept an offer without it being seen as a political defeat. If the Allams win the referendum it would be very difficult for the council to go against that vote.
If it's held at the same time as local council elections, it'd be in May (2012?); and each person (within the HCC area) would vote at their local polling station - for both referendum and local council candidate(s).
but if the Allams win, are you then saying that they will have freee reign on the stadium and surrounds.....in your dreams. this is politics not business
actually anyone who pays there phone(land line) bill to KC are entitled to vote on this - if there is ever a vote that is. for the record its a very easy thing to arrange and implement but would be way beyond the HCC to arrange.
A referendum is a joke - christ even National Governments think long and hard about referendums - they are few and far between and seen as a last resort. The problem they cause is the wording of such a vote. Forget Geraghty - he'll be brushed aside. Allams need to sort themselves out though - they haven't come out this smelling of roses by a long chalk either.
the hull arena was for sale under the LibDems. not sure what labours plans are for it now but the ice plant needs replacing thats for sure. labour will be voted out at the next elections so my bet is that the Allams will wait for that.
No I never said that at all. What I said was that if the Allams win the referendum it will be very difficult for the council to go against that vote. You're dead right it is politics and the only valuable commodity in politics is votes. It would be political suicide for any party to offer the voters a referendum and then deny them their choice.
now that is totally out of order and from what ive been told can be challenged in a court of law. but...... i think you will find that if you pay your phone bill to KC then you are entitled to vote. if i dont get one i shall take court action. i pay my phone bill to KC and i am out of the boundary.
It's a Hull City Council vote, the provider of you telephone service has **** all to do with anything.
Surely OLM is right. I thought that Kingston Communications was now a private company with nothing to do with the Hull City Council. Although it seems wrong tonthe City fans the only people who will get a vote will be those who live within the Hull City boundary.
The article states that the referendum (should it happen!!) would piggy-back off the council elections in May. That means anyone on the electoral register for one of the Wards of Kingston-Upon-Hull will get a vote. I still think the best way forward is mediation because if the Council get what they want for the referendum to take place that is virtually what they want for the sale to go through. The sticking point is and will remain that the Allams want the Council to re-invest what they buy the KC for back into the project, either by giving them the money back or by donating the KC Stadium. That is a million miles away from what the Council want.
The whole referendum question is a crock of ****. The council is elected by the voters to take decisions. I take it that when the council sold off Kingston Comms, they did not ask the voters for a vote; likewise when they put the money into the KC Stadium? Were there to be a referendum, what would the question/s be? Sell to the Allams? - Yes/No; sell at £x million? Yes/No; reinvest sale money in KC development? Yes/No. The council needs to get a grip! AND The Allams need to stop posturing and start seriously talking (I know it's difficult for them, with the people they need to talk to not actually being very bright).
no but its my money and many more like me - indirectly that helped pay for the KC and not just those within the HCC boundary. this could well get messy if people outside are denied a say.
