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Reality check for Julio Cesar & Jermain Defoe

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Kilburn, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

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    Toronto FC cooled down by Real Salt Lake - Toronto's 2-game win streak snapped

    Aside from the penalty, not exactly brilliant goalkeeping by Brazil's #1. Bradley Orr also started for TFC. Goals in attached link:-

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/toronto-fc-cooled-down-by-real-salt-lake-1.2591719

    Toronto FC goalkeeper Julio Cesar's right knee told the story as he sat in front of his locker late Saturday night.

    A round of ice and a warm shower had reduced the swelling to about the size of a tennis ball, the lump a clear indication of the physical toll the 3-0 loss to Real Salt Lake took on Cesar and his teammates.

    Just how much of a mental toll the previously unbeaten Reds endured by the humbling defeat will be revealed in the coming days.
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be ironic if in finding a team to play for the gold-digging c*nt gets crocked and misses out on the World Cup, it would be just desserts...
     
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  3. Queenslander!!

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    Dont buy into the Cesar hating at all...many worship adel for his goals but happily forget Cesar is the one who kept us anywhere near staying up in a much harder division...

    I'd like to ask the stato's if he is indeed the most highly decorated player or keeper we've ever had.

    Still its all opinions i suppose..
     
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  4. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    He was only decent up till January, he then got the same malaise as the rest of them after that. If he'd agreed to go at the end of last season we'd have got a reasonable fee for him, he chose to count money...
     
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  5. Queenslander!!

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    Dont you think that was becaus ehe realised how sh**e the players in from of him were..?

    Appaling defense and a team of wanna be's who were never gonna cut it...

    Put ryan Giggs at Millwall this year and they will still go down... To promote green as better than cesar is simply laughable to all outside our club....still, you are entittled to your say, as are his medals and trophies....

    Try taking a Inter forum survey on this...I'd love to see the results..<ok>

    PS..why dont you quit your job for less money then? say go work as a voulantier for a few years?
     
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  6. NorwayRanger

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    Medals won elsewere counts for nothing mate. Boswanka was a double Champions League and Premier League winner, that's one more Champions League than Cesar. Nuff said.
     
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    Bos was a good player but a sh*te GoalKeeper! Cesar was a good Keeper, better than Green IMO.
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    Couldn't care less about what he did five years ago. For us, Cesar had a few excellent games but was generally disinterested and poor. His bottlejob performance at Villa was unforgivable.
     
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  9. Queenslander!!

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    Fair enough Wats, but go back and have a look at this boards posts when we were in the prem and he signed for us...He was touted as MOM for nearly every game.

    We'd have been relegated by Xmas if it wasnt for him....That was him playing for us in the "big league". <ok>

    Seems a lot here dont like him because he wont take a wage cut, but yet no-one here would either.....strange that !
     
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  10. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    It's all about attitude and professionalism Queens, in the end the money was more important to him than playing, that says it all...
     
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  11. Queenslander!!

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    We'll have to agree to disagree on this one mate.

    If my company brought in a replacement as good as me (which wouldnt be hard) on less wages, i wouldnt up and leave to get less pay. i defy anyone on here to say they would.

    To us, its a dream to play in a pro football (almost said soccer there !! ) enviroment.

    To these guys that have been doing it for so long (cesar has been pro for what, 20 years +), Its thier job, just as ours is to us.

    Yes thety get paid vast amounts of money but how can we complain. if anyone on this or any other board can do better, then go and do it !

    for the record, money is the most important reason I and most others go to work too...does that make us all bad people. ?

    I understand your point, just dont fully agree mate. but thats fair enough <ok>
     
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  12. Sooperhoop

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    The difference is whether £40K, £60K or £80K a week is more important than doing the job, when you're into millions a year does it make that much more difference as to whether you'll actually go to the World Cup? Maybe his ambition is lacking and that tells you a lot. Good goalkeeper? Yes. Good attitude? Clearly not...
     
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  13. The other R in Houston

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    Queens, I agree with what you're saying, the only spoke in the wheel is that it's his last chance to represent his country at the World Cup... and in his home country, at that.

    Put me in that situation, move for less money and get the chance to be part of winning the World Cup on home turf, and I'd take a wage cut.

    Especially if I'd been told that I wouldn't be played because of my wages.
     
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    Agreed mate ....................... I wouldn't normally wish as such on a person but for that twat, I'm prepared to make an exception.
    My pet hate is selfish, greedy people who think only of themselves and do not take into consideration of those around them.
     
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  15. Rangers Til I Die

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    Sadly, that is my over riding memory of the fella. A game that was a must win for PL survival hopes (slim anyway) and JC single handedly cost us the game. Queens is right about the first 10 or so games. The two views are not mutually exclusive.
     
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  16. kiwiqpr

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    be ****ed if I would take a pay cut to do the same job somewhere new
     
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  17. Queenslander!!

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    Mate, he has achieved his goal whilst getting paid a mint11

    Who are the mugs...Us or him?

    he will be at the world cup in his home country and he knows it. we all know it too. Not quite sure how him leaving would help QPR ?
    We have many other "damaged" pro's who are doing and have done the same...

    If we are gonna pay him, id rather we kept him as a back up on the bench....!

    Just peoples diffrent views tbh. Not read much to make me change mine yet, but i aint put up much to make others change thiers...its all peoples opinions and views i guess ! <ok>
     
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  18. Kilburn

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    Toronto FC has 3 of league's top 12 paid players

    The lid has been lifted a little on the cost of Toronto FC's rebirth.

    Figures released Thursday by the MLS Players Union show that Toronto is home to three of the 12 players in the league making million-dollar-plus salaries in 2014.

    And it's safe to assume that Julio Cesar, the Brazilian international goalkeeper on loan with Toronto from Queens Park Rangers, is not having to scrape by on a mere $202,000. QPR is no doubt topping up his bank account big-time.

    Seattle Sounders striker Clint Dempsey is the league's highest-paid player at $6.695 million US. Two Toronto players are next with U.S. midfielder Michael Bradley at $6.5 million and England striker Jermain Defoe at $6.18 million. Toronto's Brazilian striker Gilberto makes $1.2 million (12th).

    The TFC spending spree is paying dividends with Toronto (3-1-0) currently second in the Eastern Conference standings. The team managed only six wins in 2013 when it went 6-17-11.

    Tim Leiweke, CEO and president of Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, has said the soccer club will lose money this season because of the outlay, however.

    To put Bradley's and Defoe's $6-million-plus 2014 salaries in perspective, Toronto Maple Leafs stars Phil Kessel and Dion Phaneuf signed eight-year, $64-million and seven year, $49-million contract extensions, respectively, earlier this season. Phaneuf is making $5.5 million this season while Kessel is getting $5.4 million.

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/toronto-fc-has-3-of-league-s-top-12-paid-players-1.2605774
     
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