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  1. Reams is an oil tanker

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    First I have always appreciated what Richard Murray and done and is doing for Charlton.
    He has put more money into this club than anyone of us could or would do
    Richard had to sell the club but kept us out of administration until Slater and Jimenez came along.
    He made if possible for them to buy the club and subsequently made it possible for Duchatelet to take over.
    Richard is a fan no doubt about that, he is now in an impossible position of having to see what is happening to Charlton without having an opportunity to do anything about it.

    Roland Duchatelet has put Millions of pounds into buying the club, millions of pounds improving the Valley and the training ground. In this time he has also spent millions of pounds on a single player which has not happened at the Valley for several years. He has made three huge mistakes in my opinion. 1, To use inadequate players and managers from the network. 2. To employ Katrien Meire as a CEO. Her incompetence is staggering, her comments regarding the future of the club and its fan base unforgivable and her role at the club must come to an end. 3. Duchatelet not attending games at the Valley not meeting supporters and failure to communicate shows a total lack of respect to all those who support the club kand over the years.

    Peter Varney has emailed KM with an investment proposal but I find this rather hard to believe. Firstly the club is not for sale and secondly business is not carried out in this way. The only one to benefit from this revelation
    is Rick Everitt and the publicity this has give to VOTV which is his main income. An article in the Guardian almost matches that of the one in the SLP informing us that time has run out we need to bring RD to the table now as our next home game against Blackburn it will be to late due to the Transfer window being closed. So does Rick think that the demonstration yesterday was going to result in Duchatelet selling the club in the next week or so, What absolute BS. So I am now getting very tired of CAST or Everitt trying to get fans motivated into demonstrating just for their own gains. I can see on Twitter that some are fooled into believing what they say and don't get why both have now only just come out of the woodwork when in the past both CAST and G21 including Rick wanted to cosey up to the owner. And both wanted to help create 20k while the rest of us wanted to get the owner out. Please just think on we have to make Duchatelet know that enough is enough get a new CEO get a decent manager get some decent players into the squad or GET OUT, remember though if he were to put the club up for sale now it would be to late for another owner to make any difference this season,
     
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    Yes, Murray has put his money in , but he has also been almost solely responsible for the huge list of bad decisions made since 2006, starting with his appointment of Dowie & culminating in his siding with the Belgians in the Charlton civil war. RE made the point that Murray is no longer on speaking terms with any of the old Board 'because they know what he is like'. Now maybe they are all at fault - Derek Chappel, Bob Whitehead, David White, Peter Varney, Martin Simons etc....or maybe Murray is not quite the good guy some portrayed him to be?

    Murray's continued presence at the Club cannot be a good thing. Reputation is like virginity - you can lose it but you can't get it back. It seems to me that Murray is hanging around because he wants his reputation back.
     
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  3. Reams is an oil tanker

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    I think Murray is hanging about for 5 million reasons and who can blame him. I think that Richards heart will be with the fans and his head with the Belgians don't forget we would not have a club but for Richard Murray. He would have got more money for asset stripping the club than he did for selling. As for the rest of the board don't forget that they have all run away.
     
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    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    The unrest at Charlton preceded Rick's intervention by a long time. The pre-match ones were nothing to do with him. He suggested occupying the car park afterwards for an hour, which turned out to be a very good idea. It was a proposal, no-one had to pay any attention. Richard Murray's history has been raked over and over on this forum so all I will say is that I hope he leaves soon with some respect, because he's just being used.
    The latest example of Roland's flawed theory that you can get good players on the cheap is Vaz Te. Started well now going through the motions. Roland is wasting a fortune this way, and with him charging Charlton 3% interest we're doomed unless he gets out or changes direction, of which there is no sign at all.
     
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  5. Reams is an oil tanker

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    Sorry Billy you have your facts wrong. Rick jumped on the band wagon, Before our demonstration at home to Sheff Wed Rick was nowhere to be seen. It was not Ricks idea to demonstrate after the game this is something that was done by a few after Sheff Wed and has gained momentum since via a lot of fans on social media facebook and twitter etc. As for Roland there are no signs that he wants to get out or change but at this stage of the season I hope he changes direction because now is not the time to sell the club. It will take weeks or even months and by then we could already be down
     
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    The money Murray is due upon promotion would be paid whether or not he is involved in the club or not. Just like it is for the rest of the former board who are not affiliated with the Belgians. Makes it even more baffling why the twat continues to back them.

    I wish people would stop saying he hangs about because of the money because it's patently untrue.
     
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  7. Reams is an oil tanker

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    Back that up with facts mate. If I were owed 5 million I would be hanging around that is his right, Don't become blind because of your hatred towards the Belgians
     
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    An article ran last week where the former directors make mention or allude to that I thought? They certainly said they would be willing to hear Varneys side.
     
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  9. Reams is an oil tanker

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    The previous directors did not have in excess of £500 million between them. The other difference is RD does not want to sell so why would he listen to Varney.
    Anyone serious in buy Charlton would have to make him an offer well above the valuation of the club,
     
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    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    THat's what I said, the unrest preceded Rick's involvement by a long time, you've just put it another way.
    I was at the Wednesday protest and did not hear anything about occupying the car park yesterday. The first I heard was when Rick proposed the idea on the widely read CL, and it caught on very quickly.
     
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    The 5 million is repayable when Charlton get into the Premiership. I was at the EGM when it was mentioned. You don't have to be at the Club to receive your money, just look at Whitehand, Chapple etc. They are still owed money but have left. Judas Murray could have left but it is him that decided to stay and is being dragged down with the scummy Belgians.
     
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  12. Reams is an oil tanker

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    When did Rick post on CL about Saturdays protest we have been pushing this on twitter for weeks as well as Rick knows
     
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  13. Reams is an oil tanker

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    Dick you chose to ignore as I have stated above that this club would not exist today was it not for Murray. Judas is a childish thing to say, Unlike any chairman we have ever had he has been a true Charlton supporter fact and has not more for CAFC than anyone.
     
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    I don't know Rick at all, nor do I have any axe to grind about him. If you want to you can trace how the the idea developed on CL, which was the first I heard about it, fact.
     
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    Not really sure the point you are trying to make as I thought the point of the protests were to unite the fan base behind a common cause and to attempt to put differences aside to achieve this? Is there any currency now in arguing who is responsible for initiating them?

    The protest was significant on Saturday and that is due to the efforts of many, including RE. Lots of people played a role right down to everyone that mentioned the on here, tweeted or posted in Facebook or just told mates down the pub. They/we all gave the idea traction and for that I applaud all of you that did. I'm positive that we all have differing opinions of individuals involved but now is not the time for that debate. Saturday proved that that the numbers are significant and that needs to be capitalised on and continued. We need to guard against the possibility that some may be duped by any activity in this window when the reality is its a cycle that continues year after year.

    With regard to RM he is using/used any good will garnered from past actions and like other ex directors could have the same guarantees about his investment if he were not involved in the club currently. This fact dies leave his motivation open to fair questions. He may well be a CAFC supporter but he has not been the only chairman we have had who was, Roger Alwyn for one.
     
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    Reams can I ask a favour from you. Will you stop saying FACT after everything you say. It is not a FACT about Murray, it is your opinion. Murray has done some good things but the bad things have been well documented. We have never recovered from Judas Murray appointing Dowie to get back at Jordan. Dowie then wasted 11 M pounds on crap like Traore, Faye, Diawara etc. He then appointed Reed which was another mistake by Murray. I invested a few thousand pounds in Charlton, these shares were rendered worthless under Murrays stewardship. He has consistently lied to Charlton supporters.
    His backing of this regime has been the final straw for me and he sits there covering for Meire. He has lost all credibility with the majority of Charlton Supporters FACT. The Judas moniker is accurate.
     
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  17. ForestHillBilly

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    Naby Sarr!:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  18. Scooter

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    Two things:
    Murray WAS a good guy. Unfortunately he has decided to join the Belgians and his credibilty is now trashed. He could recover it by resigning or by brokering a new takeover.
    Your smearing of Rick Everitt is nauseatingly innacurate. Rick was at the forefront of getting us back to the Valley and he will be at the forefront of current fan protestations. You really should be grateful to him.
    The most vociferous critics of Rick imply his only interest is getting his job back. Actually his biggest interest his getting rid of the incompetent lunatics that are destroying OUR club.
    If they are eventually pushed out? I would recommend Rick for a job with the club. Because when he was employed by CAFC previously he was exceptionally good in his role.
     
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    Great Post
     
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    As I previously stated before I was decried, unless we focus on the single issue of getting the Belgians out and are not derailed by personal views on Murray, Everitt, Jim Davidson, Olly Groome, Dave Lockwood et al we will end up dividing ourselves rather than rallying behind the common cause. Please stop this inane finger pointing and they may be bad but he is supporting them or has supported them or may continue to support them. The sole aim is to get them out either one at a time or all together.

    My preference would be for KF to be removed by KM and then for her to admit that she was not up to the job and had made misleading statements about each manger she had appointed being better than the last, then fall on her pointed tongue or be removed by RD and replaced with someone who actually has real commercial experiences (not competition law). If RD then decides he cannot continue to invest and sells then so be it.

    Whatever we do we should discontinue the infighting about anything other than how to protest about the three main villains.
     
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