So HMRC have finally put their foot down as a major creditor and have voted against Rangers pushing through a CVA. This means Rangers are to be liquidated, and the club with all its history is effectively gone. As we have seen in the past when clubs have fallen this way, they have dropped into Non-League football and had to fight their way back. Will this happen to Rangers as it should? After all, it will be a brand new club simply using the name Rangers. With the SPL being in such bad shape, it is very likely that SPL clubs will vote to allow the new club a slot in the SPL simply because of their away support and the money that brings. Yes, some sanctions will be agreed, but is this right? Surely New Rangers should, at the very least, start in the Third Division and earn the right to play in the SPL. The key here is that Rangers FC as we knew it is gone. Yes, the new club may play in the same kit and use the same name, but the old club is gone. Should New Rangers go straight into the SPL it will be a complete farce. The message will be that clubs can go an overspend, get liquidated - yes, not administration - and simply restart in the same Division. Sorry, with football spiralling dangerously out of control thanks mainly to massively overpaid players, New Rangers should restart at the bottom. If Inverness had gone into admin and HMRC were their major creditor and shut them down, would the SPL have blinked? No, and a new Callie would probably have had to start in the Highland League. I am against any club getting preferential treatment for going out of existence. Yes, it is hard on the fans, but football needs to clean its act up and start taking better care of its fans. Instead football is taking advantage of the fans, knowing they stay loyal to their clubs. It's not as if fans just go and switch brands when they are unhappy with their team (except for the new fans Scum attract each season), so football takes advantage of this loyalty and behaves as it wishes. Monday night games, staggered kick-offs on a Saturday, insane wages, bad behaviour, diving, rolling about, you name it...just a lack of respect for the fans. So back to New Rangers. The old club behaved very badly in putting itself at risk and now its gone. New Rangers? Start at the bottom and send a message once and for all. Football fans don't want or need shyster owners running their clubs into the ground.
Yep, 3rd Div. Keeping us in the SPL would be farcical. An SPL without Rangers would have less revenue, no doubt about that, only the other clubs know what kind of affect that would have on them which is why they're having the vote. In fact, a vote is not even required. Under existing association rules an SPL share can be transferred to a newco at their discretion.
a rangers fan for the 3rd and here i am a celtic fan seriously considering wanting them to stay in the spl its a topsy turvy world
Why would you prefer us to stay in the SPL? It was reported yesterday that Broonie said the same thing.
Could you imagine how boring and hollow the SPL would seem without Rangers?! Brown said he joined Celtic to play against Rangers and in Europe. How many players will they be able to attract/hold on to if there is nothing to play for?
im on the side of you being in the spl yes i like old firm games - im an st holder but honestly it would be harder for me to justify to the missus going to games without a meaningful challenge just being honest here not saying i would cancel - i prob just wouldnt attend every game on the flip side i do believe there should be a punishment - im essentially a flip flopper
They are cheating scum, turning a blind eye will simply kill the game in Scotland, the fans of the other clubs will simply walk away and we will be left with nobody to play.
Fair enough. Not many Celtic fans would admit to wanting Rangers in the SPL. Realistically, I think we have to be kept in it. No competition, severely reduced TV and sponsorship deals, and attendances would lower on average. Scotlands coefficient would take a severe battering. Celtic would have to start the qualifying campaign as soon as the season ends.
plus we would get to remind you week on week that you are there at our behest and that we are now, officially, the worlds most succesful club
There was a vote on FF yesterday with around 99% of Rangers fans favouring a drop to the 3rd rather than stay in the SPL with sanctions. It'd be interesting to see what the result would have been if we were allowed to stay in the SPL with no sanctions. In any case, I'm one of the few who voted against the drop. I want to stay in the SPL at all costs.
yeah but if there was a vote today on FF that the world was flat it might come out in the high 90s % wise i think if there is one thing that winds other fans up - not just celtic - more than anything is that no one at the club (not the fans, not the directors) has really come out and said - "yeah, we did it, we are sorry, please dont punish us but if you do we will accept it)
We'll be heavily censured and completely uncompetative and possibly relegated anyway. As far as I understand our current player contracts do transfer to the newco but are not legally binding. Confusing I know. The players association are saying the players can can leave. I know some Rangers fans want the drop to the 3rd as they see it as some kind of perverse "punishment" on the SPL. Personally, I'd just not bother watching us in the SPL. It would be ****in pointless. I'd rather see us compete and come back.
would you be willing to, potentially, miss out on promotion one year from the 2nd or whatever though? can you imagine the backlash...
Why not relegate you and put you in the 1st division? I think that would keep everyone happy apart from the bitter bastards. I'm sure everyone could survive if its for 1 season. Super scoreboard last night was suggesting that rangers might have to take a year out of football anyway to sort all this out.
Newco Rangers starting in the 3rd isn't relegation - they're starting again. For Newco Rangers to start in the 1st, it would need to be passed by statute (by the SFL in that case, I think). That would be very unfair on the teams currently in that league/trying to get into that league.
I'd rather be uncompetitive in the SPL for a year than drop to Div 3, face an exodus of the entire first team squad and play the likes of Annan Athletic for at least the next 3 seasons. If we stay in the SPL but are so heavily censured that we end up relegated at the end of the season, we'd likely only be away from the top flight for a year.
Not really. Presumably an extra team would be promoted from the SFL to replace Rangers in the SPL leaving no net change.
