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Rangers are dead...

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by RebelBhoy, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    ...good at pretending their club still exists.

    Even though we all knew aaaages ago that they were going to be liquidated and that a new club would rise in its place it is quite amusing to watch them desperately cling to the mantra that Sevco is still the same club.

    Even the ones who didn't believe that Rangers would be liquidated knew it meant that any new club would be exactly that. A NEW CLUB;

    Quite an embarrassing faux pas, I'm sure you'll agree.

    What about the tired line about club and company ****e?

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    Whoopsie<doh>

    Agh, but that wiz just D&P and they are idiots......

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    aah.......not so easy now huh.

    What do companies house say?

    Name & Registered Office:
    THE RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
    IBROX STADIUM
    150 EDMISTON DRIVE
    GLASGOW
    G51 2XD
    Company No. SC425159

    Status: Active
    Date of Incorporation: 29/05/2012 If they were the same club then it would say "Date of Incorporation: 27/05/1899" there....but it don't

    Country of Origin: United Kingdom
    Company Type: Private Limited Company
    Nature of Business (SIC):
    None Supplied
    Accounting Reference Date: 31/05
    Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
    Next Accounts Due: 28/02/2014
    Last Return Made Up To:
    Next Return Due: 26/06/2013
    Previous Names:
    Date of change Previous Name
    31/07/2012 SEVCO SCOTLAND LIMITED

    So what happened to Rangers?

    Name & Registered Office:
    RFC 2012 P.L.C.
    IBROX STADIUM
    GLASGOW
    G51 2XD
    Company No. SC004276

    Status: In Administration (soon this will change to in liquidation > liquidated/dissolved)

    Date of Incorporation: 27/05/1899

    Country of Origin: United Kingdom
    Company Type: Public Limited Company
    Nature of Business (SIC):
    93120 - Activities of sport clubs
    Accounting Reference Date: 30/06
    Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/06/2010 (GROUP)
    Next Accounts Due: 31/12/2011 OVERDUE
    Last Return Made Up To: 27/01/2012
    Next Return Due: 24/02/2013
    Last Members List: 27/01/2012
    Last Bulk Shareholders List: 27/01/2011
    Insolvency History
    Previous Names:
    Date of change Previous Name
    31/07/2012 THE RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB P.L.C.

    What do the SFL say?
    David Longmuir said they have gone through the process of applying like any new club.

    What does the Sevco owner say?

    [video=youtube;QVy2gClmuZQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVy2gClmuZQ&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    No CVA, history GONE. FACT.

    What does the website of the new club say?

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    Unlucky chumps.

    Some hilarious quotes in here from some Rangers "Legneds"

    [video=youtube;N01qCH8502Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N01qCH8502Q&list=HL1343825885&feature=mh_lolz[/video]

    I fully expect a compliant media to play along with this charade.

    Support the new club if you like. Just don't pretend it is Rangers. Because it ain't.
     
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  2. simon_bhoy

    simon_bhoy Well-Known Member

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    ooooooooooffffffffffttttttttt!
     
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  3. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Rebs has snapped ...
     
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  4. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Just stating facts. Not Med Dog facts. Actual facts.

    They know they are gone.

    i'm just not up for playing the stupid "same club" game.

    Everyone saw this coming.
     
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  5. Tina_old

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    Brilliant
     
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  6. MrT

    MrT Well-Known Member

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    Talk pish Wibble.

    SFL website -

    Rangers - Founded 1872.

    That's all I need.
     
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  7. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Coz that's all you got.

    What pish am I talking?

    What exactly about my post is not true?

    The club you used to support is no longer in the business of playing football.
     
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  8. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    <laugh>

    Get this on Sevco's board Rebel.

    Rocket needs to know these facts. <whistle>
     
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  9. MrT

    MrT Well-Known Member

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    Official SFL website or bitter autistic random ****o....hmmmm who to believe.....
     
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  10. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Rhocket knows the facts. He is deep undercover.

    Given that Mr T takes his facts from the SFL website, then perhaps we could use some other information from the SFL website.

    Rangers Kit:

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    http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/club/rangers-fc/

    Here is a picture of some smacked up child playing against Brechin on Sunday;

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    Very clearly, captain clearasil is not wearing any of the kit identified by the SFL website as being that of Rangers.

    There are only two logical conclusions that can be drawn after viewing both those images.

    A) The SFL website is inaccurate

    or

    2) The team that played against Brechin on Sunday was not Rangers.

    ........or possibly both.

    The facts just keep on mounting.

    Thank you for your valuable contribution for the case of Reality Vs Sevco
     
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  11. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    And how could I have forgotten this.

    Dear old Charlie Green. The Yorkshire Ripper.

    Here is the CVA proposal put forward by Charles Green;

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3128763/Inv... VERSION.pdf

    Current Situation
    - 13 May 2012: Charles Green agrees exclusivity
    -Rangers FC avoids liquidation via CVA subject to creditor&#8217;s approving £8.5m offer
    - Main benefits:
    - Players contracts remain in place
    - Other significant sanctions avoided, such as a 3 year ban from Europe
    - History and tradition of the club is maintained


    What does that bit in bold say?

    The CVA was rejected, as we all knew it would be......except Charlie G.
     
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  12. Super hooper

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    S.H The R****** fuked in 2012 Founded in 2012.
     
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  13. Albatross

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    Brilliant evidence that they no longer exist. Shower of bigots. Oot wae the garbage.
     
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  14. Albatross

    Albatross Well-Known Member

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    Soon they will have to change the badge as well as BDO tell them that they are trading under the insignia of the old defunct club or they will be liable for all the debt under the Insolvency Act 1986.
     
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  15. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    I am not 100% sure of that but it would be hilarious.

    Here is the Gers save plan;.....before they failed to save the Gers obviously.

    So the RST knew then that this was the club and company......but not now.

    Collective amnesia.



    About GerSave
    Overview:- "Fans buying into the Club (Note - not Company ) - We are the People"

    "The aim of the Rangers Supporters Trust, since inception, has been the long-term goal for supporters to invest and have influence at the highest level of the club (note - Not Company). The most vital ingredient in any club is the fans. Players, owners and the club managers increasingly come and go, but the supporters are the one constant - theirs is a lifetime commitment."

    This aim is shared by the Supporters Direct* movement as a whole.

    &#8226;The Rangers Supporters Trust
    The Trust has one main aim, or is it a dream, that one day the fans will own our club (note - Not Company). For complete clarity the Trust has worked closely with the current Board of Rangers Football Club to introduce our "Share Save Scheme". Our members are always motivated by doing what we believe is best for Rangers FC. For information, meetings have been held in preparation of the scheme with David Murray - Chairman, Martin Bain - CEO and David Joliffe - Finance Director.

    The Share Save scheme will enable supporters, who must first be a member of the Trust, the opportunity to save a monthly amount that shall be used to purchase ordinary shares in Rangers PLC. The amount of shares purchased is the sum of all your monthly contributions less costs and this becomes your "entitlement". At anytime throughout this scheme you can exercise this entitlement and have the shares, or cash, returned to you in your own name. Alternatively, once you exercise this entitlement you could opt to sell your shares to the scheme and receive the cash equivalent.

    It is important we look at the individual "entitlement" and explain this further. The supporter who saves is ALWAYS the beneficial owner to the cash he/she saves and to the shares, once this transaction takes place. At anytime this cash (if still not invested) or the shares you are entitled to, can be withdrawn.

    &#8226;How do we do this?
    To join the scheme, the supporters must first be a member of the Trust (although you can join the Trust and the scheme at the same time).

    Each supporter shall be given the opportunity to save a monthly or annual amount. These funds, less a small administration fee, go entirely to share acquisition and directly to the club (note - Not Company).

    For their money, the fans receive an "entitlement" to ordinary shares in Rangers PLC. This gives the fans the ability to own shares in their club (note - Not Company) at cost effective rates. For example, if a fan saves £10 per month, over a 5 year period they will have acquired £600 of Rangers PLC shares, less minimal costs, over the period.

    This scheme does NOT lock anyone in. Whilst the shares are bought and maintained in the name of the Trust they can be taken back by the supporter at any time. Using the example above, if the fan left after a year he/ she would receive a certificate for £120 worth of Rangers PLC shares, after 3 years £360 worth and after 5 years £600 worth. For clarity - the supporter chooses the time they remain in the scheme.

    In addition, there is also a facility for individuals to become involved in the scheme through a one-off or annual contribution.

    Security is a key aspect of the scheme. The Trust can only ensure the security of the supporters cash until it is invested in shares. However, once the share purchase is made, as with any investment in stocks and shares, the price could fall as well as rise. The idea is to have an annual investment in shares of Rangers PLC and as such each participant in the scheme will accumulate shares on this basis. Rangers are currently listed on Ofex, therefore fans can see the value of the shares at anytime.

    TO BE CLEAR THIS SCHEME IS NOT GEARED FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES, IT IS TO CREATE A VEHICLE THAT WILL RESULT IN WIDER AND INCREASED OWNERSHIP OF THE CLUB (note - Not Company) BY THE FANS
     
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    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Pretty overwhelming evidence that Rangers are dead.

    Good work Reb <ok>
     
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  18. Albatross

    Albatross Well-Known Member

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    Scottish media and football authorities will endlessly ignore this type of self evident information and documentation because if the new club were to be renamed Govan Athletic then the FF hordes would desert them. Reality is, however that Companies House and BDO and the law will eventually tell them to change the name or accept the debts of the former entity.
    Give it time to unfold.
     
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    His beloved club’s liquidation and subsequent reincarnation in the Third Division as a newco has put a sense of hurt into Smith’s soul, and his concern for club and country is genuine. Asked if Scottish football was heading for League of Ireland status, Smith said: “We are heading there. It’s a slow process, but we have to face that. It is not going to be helped by the withdrawal of funds and no matter what anyone says, Celtic and Rangers kept the interest in terms of Sky TV and people like that.

    “If we don’t have it for three years it might be a further slow death to what we are getting. Everyone says it will bring on our younger players, but they are leaving as well. We can’t compete.”

    Smith suggested that financial penalties, such as Rangers surrendering half their home gate, might have worked better. Instead, the game in this country faces financial meltdown. “It is a nightmare for Rangers but it is a nightmare scenario equally for Scottish football as well,” said Smith, “but it is a reality so everyone has to face that now.

    “It has not been a good thing for Scottish football. The people on the boards and the SFA have already admitted that, and the only thing I could say is that if it is not a good thing for Scottish football then why did they do it in the first place? We could have had a situation where they penalised Rangers financially to the benefit of the other teams in the SPL and then put on whatever other sanctions they wanted, but keep them in the SPL for the simple reason that it keeps Scottish football strong.

    “As it is, if we are listening to the warnings that are being given out by (SFA chief executive) Stewart Regan and (SPL chief executive) Neil Doncaster, then we may be in for a very, very difficult period. In my opinion a lot of it could have been avoided. It’s all right to come up with comments like sporting integrity, but the main thing is for Scottish football to gain a level of respectability and I think we are in danger of losing that.”

    Smith says he is not complaining about the other clubs’ decision, but is adamant that the “financial implications” will be deadly serious.

    “This will just exacerbate what has already been happening in Scottish football,” said Smith. “In terms of finance we are already having a big enough struggle without Rangers having to go to the lower divisions for three years.”

    The Scotland national team may be affected, says Smith: “Rangers might not have many Scottish players that Craig Levein might pick, but if they had players he could pick, the standard they are playing in would be a factor.”

    His successor at Rangers, Ally McCoist, is “sticking by it” and there was “never any question of him leaving,” according to Smith. “It has taken its toll on him and you can tell that with some of the statements that he made which were born out of frustration.”

    Smith is sure Rangers will survive and the fans will rally to the cause, but it will be difficult from the outset.

    He pointed out: “Rangers have to face the problem of trying to get three promotions in three years to get themselves back into the Premier Division.

    “This close season is a big one because they are going to have sign players that effectively will have to last them for a couple of seasons, so there’s a lot of work to be done from a Rangers perspective to get them into shape for the start of what is going to be a three-year campaign.”

    Last weekend, Rangers’ new owner Charles Green categorically blamed the previous owners for Rangers’ troubles. Despite his personal loyalty to Sir David Murray, Smith echoed that view.

    He said: “If the team doesn’t win then the manager takes the blame, and if the club gets into trouble then the people who run the club must take the blame. It’s as simple as that.”



    let me dry those tears for you walter

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  20. DevAdvocate

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    Last weekend, Rangers&#8217; new owner Charles Green categorically blamed the previous owners for Rangers&#8217; troubles. Despite his personal loyalty to Sir David Murray, Smith echoed that view.

    He said: &#8220;If the team doesn&#8217;t win then the manager takes the blame, and if the club gets into trouble then the people who run the club must take the blame. It&#8217;s as simple as that.&#8221;


    A damning indictment eh?
     
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