At first it was just one or two sources but it appears to have caught on. At first it was supposed to be a loan but now.appears that the deal arsenal wanted is permanent with thw fee.from £5.5mil rising to £9mil.based on alpearances. Just thought id ask what people here would make of it should either scenario prove true. I for one would be extremely gutted. He had to go through a nightmare of an injury and deal with tbe death of Gary Speed whom he was very close to. Think it would be a big mistake on wengers part should it be permanent even thiugh it implies we have a replacement.
As i said before in a different thread. It would be a mistake to release him so soon. He should be given at least another chance, with another club to prove himself. A full season with a club playing quality football in the Premiership should test whether he has it. The man has the talent and is still very young. He should be given a proper run....
Get rid of him he is absolutly awful. Too slow and not enough technical ability. If we can get 5.5-9m then its a steal and means wenger has got his ruthless streak back as opposed to just putting faith in the same rubbish every year. He had a run in the team and he failed. Not good enough.
What!! Last season was Ramsey's first full season after the leg break and he was given way too much responsibility and was clearly not ready, but he has got that season out of the way and with less pressure on his shoulders he would have surely improved. Even after saying all that, Ramsey still had his moments last season and his form only dropped off a cliff after that Swansea away game. He also had to deal with issues off the pitch last season. Hope these stories are a load of bollocks.
Sky sports picking up on the story now. Hopefully we will find out its nonsense later on http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7841688/Worldwide-interest-in-Bendtner (last line for the Ramsey rumour)
nah, keep him. don't even send him on loan. wilshere won't be fully back until october i think, rosicky will surely get injured after his recent one and no one else can really play that role. granted ramsey isn't the best there, but he can be a useful squad player. people saying he's rubbish obviously only remember the past season. they didn't see him when he first broke into the team. EDIT: and then we would also need to buy another attacking midfielder (or 2 even: 1 first team and 1 squad)
If Ramsey is being sold, it means we have another midfielder lined up, which hopefully is M'vila, and if that's the case, I would see no problem in letting Ramsey go. And it would also seem Wenger has more faith in the potential of Coquelan to be a back up player over Ramsey, and I have no problem with that either.
I cant believe you people are saying give him time and yet you know we have been doing this for 7 years right? Thats why we aint won anything. "They will come good", "they have potential", "they are young"...well most of them dont just come good unless they really are showing something really special (like cesc). If he turns out to be amazing I will be shocked but I will be happy for him. You dont have to succeed everywhere and maybe he just needs a change of situation. But we shudnt be afraid of cutting people loose if they arent up to it. You wont get it right all the time (look at bayern munich with hummels or man u with pique) but at least you wont be stuck with rubbish if you are a bit more ruthless.
Doesn't mean there should be abseloutely no room for setniment or understanding mate. Ramsey won't Even be easily replaced. According to some reports though Ramsey is yet to be convinced by the move. Let's wait and see.
A loan yes. But these rumors are about selling him. I'd agree with loaning him to Fulham but not to selling him.
I'm surprised at the tone of this thread. If we got rid of him and got M'Vila in I doubt we would regret it tbh. He's not good enough and was guilty of constant **** ups throughout last season. There aren't too many bemoaning the absence of Denilson who was also given far too much faith and starts and never showed the required quality. I would be delighted if this was true, it would be a sign that standards are rising and mediocre performances will no longer be tolerated; precisely what the club needs.
Denilson was given WAY more time than Ramsey. Before the injury, Ramsey showed his potential and he needs time to rediscover it, we can't throw him out after ONE season. Denilson unlike Ramsey never picked up a serious injury, so he never even had that issue to deal with. Comparing those two is ridiculous.
keep Ramsey - sell Denilson, Vela and Bendtner at a loss - just let go. Make a decision for God's sake.
I see you're point but this is perhaps a case of learning from the Denilson debacle and taking action earlier rather than later. I wouldn't be against a loan move but I don't want to see him starting games next season.
This. Only option for me is a loan, but wil we have enough cover in midfield as Wilshere will miss a large chunk of next season and Frimpong wil miss most of it. We will promote Coqs but Sanga is also out for a large chunk of next season too, so he will cover RB. Jenkinson is still green and Djourou was terrible as RB this season. So our midfield will consist of - Rosicky, Arteta, Song, Ramsey, M'Villa?, Diaby?. So as you see, can we really sell or loan Ramsey out? M'Villa and Diaby are question marks for different reasons, and it's risky business not having cover for Rosicky and Arteta, as they are more injury prone than Song. Our midfield is looking very bare at the start of next season.....
I think you need to look at how long it took Rosicky to come back before deciding on Ramsey. I think he should be given at least another year to recover his form, which would be about the same as it Rosicky (who older as well so not as long left). The other factor is we cannot expect Wilshere to return on top form and he wil lneed at least a year or two to get back. Ramsey could be the cover for himif nothing else.
As a Fulham fan I've love it if you guys sold him to us... I'm amazed he is only 21, i thought he was 24 or so as he seems to have been around for a fair few years. If the transfer fee being banded around is true, around £9mil made up of around £5mil plus extras, I think that is with in our budget, its the wages I think we would struggle with. If you get M'Vila do you think you would need him as you've also (hopefully) got Jack W coming back too? Its nice to see Wenger doing his business early and it looks as though you have some real quality coming in.
