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Rafa in or Rafa out

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by green_day, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. green_day

    green_day New Member

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    not wumming.
     
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  2. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    i say give him a long term contract
     
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  3. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    In, it's only one game jeez, we beat Everton away the other day. If you offered me 4 points from Everton away and QPR at home i would of bit your hand off, 3 is still good as we normally always lose to Everton away anyway. It is annoying and frustrating though that we can beat the spuds, arsenal, everton and norwich away but lose to qpr at home and west ham and corinthians
     
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  4. luckywerthers

    luckywerthers Active Member

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    it was a london derby ff's, form book can and does go out of the window, one shot on goal and it went in
     
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  5. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No need to Judge Rafa based on this..

    Commentators are utter tosh suggesting the blame is on Rafa for leaving out Eden & Juan..

    You don't need them to beat this QPR team and QPR still have a very good chance to go down!!
     
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  6. Varier2

    Varier2 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Rafa in, and (all together now), Torres out!
     
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  7. green_day

    green_day New Member

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    not with Rafa in charge ( the torres out bit ).
     
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  8. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    to this <ok>

    can't wait for Demba BA!!!!!
     
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  9. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

    Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys Well-Known Member

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    Rubbish. Rafa got it spectacularly wrong. Form does go out the window in derbies which is EXACTLY why you can't leave your big guns on the bench. His saving grace was we were winning games and scoring goals. We have just been beaten by the worst team in the prem by a country mile. He has no excuses, he knows where he stands and he knows that he will be in the firing line if he he gets it wrong. His head must roll.
     
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  10. RonnieCFC

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    All chelsea fans saying it's Rafa's fault take a look at yourself!

    The ****ing starting 11 had MORE than ENOUGH to BEAT QPR at HOME.

    Lack of tempo and we in my opinion underestimated them cost us a home defeat.
     
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  11. green_day

    green_day New Member

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    also Luiz should be put back in defence.
     
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    Yep, he can't do nearly enough damage from the middle <laugh>.


    Shambolic CB IMO. Looked OK as a DM, if he has any future in a top club (once his hype dies off) it will be nowhere near a CB position.
     
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  13. Gazautd

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    Keep the waiter!!
     
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  14. green_day

    green_day New Member

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    This.
     
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  15. bluemoon2

    bluemoon2 Well-Known Member

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  16. I have only one thing to add to this thread...



    :emoticon-0159-music
    Go Compare! Go Compare!
    With Rafa's clowning, he'll have you drowning!
    Then you can thank your stars that you went to Go Compare...

    GO COMPARE!!! :emoticon-0159-music
     
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  17. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing how fickle Chelsea fans are, 1 minute Rafa's the worst manager around, then comes an 8-0 win and he's the best thing since sliced bread, and now he's terrible again.

    Maybe you should judge him over a period of time rather than just jumping the gun after each result.

    Torres is the biggest problem IMO, the sooner he is out of your side the better. RA is just forcing managers to play him, so he doesn't look like a tit for spending 50 million on him. The facts are though the guy is ****e, and has been ****e since 2009 in terms of goals to games ratio's.

    The best thing for Chelsea is if Ba starts the next game instead of Torres, though wether Rafa will have the balls to do that and risk losing his job remains to be seen :biggrin:
     
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  18. Varier2

    Varier2 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    What a bunch of ****. Not one of here has changed their opinion on the result. Criticizing a poor team selection does not mean we all now think he's crap.
     
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  19. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Spectacular own goal by Rafa, to go with the one against Corinthians. Having sorted our best team ,he then goes and makes altogether the wrong call for a derby match. If he's an astute tactician, then I'm going out to shoot some of those pigs flying overhead.
    There are some lessons for us though.
    1. Moses is not good enough to start.
    2. Lampard cannot play 2 consecutive games from the off.
    3. Torres should be sold or given away as soon as humanly possible.
    4. Our midfield is completely barren, and a much bigger problem than our strike force, even with Torres so hopeless. If it were not for Luiz, we would be totally pathetic.
    4. We have the worst first touch players and passers of the ball in the League.
    5. Either Mata or Hazard must start every game, preferably both.
    5. What has Piazon done to sit on his arse all the time and not get a run ????
     
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  20. Varier2

    Varier2 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Kinda hard to disagree. The midfield pivot does not work. If you want my opinion, a lot of our problems are coming from the 4-2-3-0 (if you include Torres as a player then feel free to edit my post). I think the formation has completely out lived it's useful purpose for it's original intention of parking the bus. I think we should revert to 4-3-3 and here's why -
    Ramires is **** in every position in a 4-2-3-1. He's too restricted in the pivot, and he cant cross for hell on the wings. Box-to-box midfielders do not work in the 4-2-3-1, and Ramires is really not a player worth wasting.
    Luiz can still be utilized in the midfield as the CDM, or he could play the box-to-box instead of Ramires. Mikel also becomes a more useful player in the CDM than he is in the overly complicated roll for him in the 4-2-3-1.
    Up front we can deploy a false 9 that works (false 9 in a 4-2-3-1 that we played against Juventus is suicidal), or we can get a striker that's decent on the ball. Mata and Hazard would be freer to do their attacking work with whoever we play in the 9. (the idea that they have freedom in the 4-2-3-1 is wrong. They are very restricted). The lack of defensive disciplin from Mata and Hazard is also no longer a huge issue as the midfield 3 cover that.

    Sadly, I can only really do this on FIFA...
     
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