Seemingly Gone with the wind has been withdrawn from streaming sites because of the way black people were portrayed. I'm sure it wasn't long ago it was voted one of ,if not the best pieces of cinematography ever. Surely that portrays American history warts anarl. Tom and Jerry next? IMHO this is getting out of hand now. What history are our littluns going to grow up with?
Its a joke, most history of what civilisation is built on is brutal and barbaric. You don't create law and order by drawing rainbows and singing songs. This is just embarrassing now.
I havnt seen it to be honest but in general showing slavery or racism in film form cant be racist itself, can it?
You're a well traveled man smug, and I'm sure you'll have seen it. Been to Barbados a couple of times and the way the privileged black people treat less well off is quite staggering. Me and the Mrs like to mix with the locals in the rum shacks , so I would quite happily have a debate with these people about the way its going. Should have a word with themselves imo.
Yep,I've spent a bit of time there and completely agree.In my experience,skin colour there is as prejudiced among born and bred locals as it is anywhere else in the world.
You don’t fix the world by airbrushing history, you fix it by educating around it. You can’t learn from the past by removing its reference points, people are so weak nowadays it staggers me. Can you imagine what our grandfathers and fathers who fought in wars would think of this world? I’m all for the current movements in the world, I agree that the BLM movement is long overdue, I agree that equal rights should apply for equal people whatever their gender, I believe everyone should have an opportunity. You know what though, the ‘awareness’ is breeding hate as far as I can see. You’ve got Anthony Joshua telling folk to ‘not by from white retailers’, wearing his heavily sponsored Under Armour gear (a white mans business). They need to find a balance and educate folk from a young age, nobody is born full of hate. I went to Thornhill, and there was a massive racism issue there, I went to junior school with a Pakistani lad who lived in my street, the issue wasn’t there in junior school, it hopped that gap. limiting personal choice isn’t the way. Education always is.
Whilst i agree in principle, when do these so called minority/indigenous groups start taking responsibility for their own actions? The bleeding hearts bleat on about how the ratio of minority's in prisons id greater than the ratio of population. Hmm, maybe that's because a higher percentage of these minorities commit the crimes. The majority of gang violence in the USA is commited by African Americans, if these so called activists want a reduction then how about they start educating and preventing the problem themselves? In Aus we here about the percentage of Aboriginals in prison exceeds the population. Guess what, there's a higher percentage that commit the crimes. The rot starts from within and whilstthis may offend some people, these community groups need to look at themselves. Ooh, something bad happened to a brother on the other side of the world, lets have a riot. (rant over but i'm sick of it)
Oh I agree, the stats may be skewered, but there is certainly an element in it that needs to change. America was founded by immigrants, the y have an openly racist leader and several states where it is visibly almost accepted, and that needs to change. It’s not always as simple as ‘they commit more crimes’ as in large parts they are forced into communities where crime may mean survival, would I steal to survive? If I had to, absolutely. It’s too simplified and one sided though. Britain were largely responsible for slave trafficking, we all know that, it’s our history. Let’s be frank, we used to see something we liked, and take it, that’s our history. We were also at the forefront of abolishing slavery as well, that gets lost, doesn’t get a reference. You have to take the history and talk about it, I’ve black friends, gay friends, and I don’t treat them different, because that’s how I was educated. Racism was everywhere in the 80’s, far worse than it is now, social media has bred the hatred and given the wrong people a voice. Eradicating racism is about removing the ‘us and them’ but the way people are going about it is only making the line between darker. It’s madness. The education system in the States is fundamentally broken, for all we have private schools here, a good education is available for most, based on intellect and ability rather than wealth. They need to start there, the US has such a world outreach that it’s traits carry across the globe.
Absolutely. The ones that annoy me are the hypocritical 'Social Justice Warriors' who say things like 'if you don't like Jeremy Corbyn, if you admire Churchill, if you're a Christian, if you're proud to be British, then you're a racist'. They want to put people into little boxes like that but that putting of people into little boxes and stereotyping them is one of the reasons we have the problems that people are protesting about. I admire Churchill and I'm proud to be British but I ****ing hate racism. I know young black lads who are devout churchgoers, do these SJWs think that makes them racist? Everyone is different and if people could accept that, maybe there would be more peace and tolerance in the world and we wouldn't need protests like those that are happening at the moment.
Having watched this last 2 week unravel and heard countless so called experts talk about a way forward to be more inclusive and harmonious among the different races, I am yet to one single suggestion that will make a difference. Taking down monuments, renaming schools, or arresting a few bad apples in the Police forces in nothing more that window dressing. Sadly it will be a generational thing and that starts at school, If the racists that are out there now will not suddenly become "non-racists". To actually ban films which among highlighted what the racial differences where during the American Cilvil War serves no purpose, That Moron who runs the States has yet to say anything on the the problems in America, I really hope he gets kicked out in November
It’s just staggering that a man like Trump can be in power in such a diverse country. I love America, I’ve travelled it extensively and the variations from state to state are fantastic, that comes from immigration. It’s like 30 countries in one (some states are similar), and you can’t have someone so one sided running that. The belief is that the black community will vote in force this time around and he will be gone, but while we stand back and applaud let’s not forget that our very own government swayed a lot of votes by vowing to ‘tighten our borders and cut down on immigrants’. The skill shortage in the UK without certain immigrants would have unbridgeable consequences. The vast majority come here to work, and work hard. Many are in medical professions. The whole world needs to stop, look and communicate. People need to read books and history rather than speculation. When folk see something that shocks them, ****ing read up on it before you pass it on, you might learn something. The world is 2 clicks away now yet folk will base their whole outlook on 1 click. When did folk stop enjoying reading up on something new?
I believe it's a fairly well-established sociological/psychological fact that people will only read (or perhaps only believe) media stories that reaffirm the views and beliefs that they already hold. People don't want to have their minds changed, which I think is a very sad thing as it means that they're missing out on so much.
On the education and racism, the thread on their board on this subject %of pupils getting decent GCSE results were 42%white. 50%Asian and 34%Black. Now imo the Asian people have as much to gripe about as the blacks, as Priti Patel said she suffered from racism, but the asians seem to have done something about it . Maybe its just in people's genes.
Absolutely true mate. Closer to home, look at Brexit. I spent weeks and weeks reading up, looking at historic trade deals, ins and outs etc and made a decision, many folk did the same. There was a large sway who read some speculative **** on Facebook and decided on their view on our entire countries future based on that. Now there’s no right and wrong answer to what you do, there’s YOUR answer which should be based on what YOU know one YOUR choices.
I prefer the Italians to the French, The Scottish to the Welsh and the Cornish to the Brummies. The people I like least are South Africans. How much of a racist am I? I worked on the doors, in Nottingham, where we had black doormen, staff and acts. If I refused entry to a white lad I'd get all manner of abusive comments about my face, my accent and me Mam If I refused entry, to a black lad, I only ever got one comment, 'You're a racist'. Trying to explain to them that this was a racist and stereotypical comment was futile, the attitude is so engrained in some people that they pass it on through each generation. I'm all for an open discussion but some people just don't want to listen.
