Questions re. the 'Banning' Thread ....

I've just read the closed thread OP again. In fact, let me paste it in ...

It has long been acknowledged that several not606 members have alternate accounts, most often it has been overlooked but when an alternate or second account is used to create a second identity for the sole purpose of disruption then it will always result in an instant ban.

The disruption over the weekend with members trying to cause havoc with the match day thread and stirring up other members caused us to look deeper at a few accounts. It was discovered that Eric Le Merde was a fake account, he wasn’t some supporter living in Australia, he was actually hiding behind a VPN.

Late yesterday evening two of the mods dropped hints to the fake account (Eric Le Merde) in the hope that he would delete it and come clean before it brought in the attention of the Supermods. They totally ignored these gentle nudges so it left no alternative but to pass the whole of Sunday and Mondays findings on to both Supermods.

The result of the events has lead to instant bans to the accounts of Glory and Eric Le Merde, we suspect there could be more fake accounts associated with these two and they will suffer the same fate once the same checks have been carried out and proven.

In regards to the match day threads, we have agreed to relax the rules, on a match by match basis, post sensibly and don’t allow it to get out of hand and things will be fine.

Not happy that the thread has been closed. Why close it & why the rush? I think we're entitled to have ask a few questions & get them answered. Put it this way, a few PMs have flown about, and support a number of posts that have been made in a similar vein. In short, they all say much the same thing - that this doesn't sound right at all.

* Glory with a second account? Possible, but he won't be the first.
* Eric not living in Oz? Possible, but given his apparently detailed familiarity with the area & the culture, unlikely.
* Glory's second account? Really?
* Eric disruptive? Are you serious?
* Eric working in conjunction with Glory? Nah, more likely for Whitejock to be Glory's second account.

I'm sorry, but with the limited information given to us, this seems like a cock and bull fairy story. Do you really expect us to believe this?

* Where's the evidence?
* What did they have to say for themselves?
* Did either admit it?
* Are all of us liable to be banned if we are disruptive? (is that me gone for this post?)
* What is disruptive, btw?
* Disruptive to whom?
* Where are all these rules we're supposed to follow?
* How can you be banned for breaking rules that don't exist?
* How long are these bans for? Sine die?
* How do you know how long you're banned for if no-one tells you?
* What is the ban structure, should we break one of these invisible rules? Sine die for everything?
* Is there a right of appeal, should you be banned?
* Who made these banning orders - our mods or the supermods?
* Was it unanimous?
* Are more bans expected to follow for similar 'offences'?

Now I'm no great fan of Glory's online persona, as you all know, but even I can see that he'd make better use of 'Eric', if that was his intention. Bit of a slow burner that one, if Eric was indeed always intended to be 'disruptive'. 4 years, to be precise - and over 7k posts. Deep undercover that one! (Hard for us to judge if everything was deleted, btw). Even if it was, do you get banned for one night's excess? If it was excess? Bit hard to take.

I'm not going to go away, btw. I'm absolutely disgusted. I feel it's only fair these questions should get answered. I will keep asking them, right up until I get banned for ever for being disruptive. Please feel free to join in, fellow 606ers.

 

Fantastic post WJ.

It actually made me realise why I first joined this board in the first place and wouldn't want to leave.

We're an eclectic mix of unbelievable characters and we always fight for truth and justice.

There are a lot of things to ponder after your post so I'll get myself a beer and try to fathom what's going on.

 

^^ you know why it was closed. To appease glory.

 

WJ you have constantly called for glory's head! It's been a collective of issues including the ones you have been complaining about. Eric got on the supermod's radar and some very very interesting things come out of the wash. Things relating to other boards. do you think we have a vendetta against either posters? How long have I fought glory's side for and pleaded with super mods to keep him on here?

 

Having read some comments from Bucks, who it has to be said has always been a top bloke and let us get away with murder, and actually fought against some bans and threatend to stop being a mod. Bucks hinted that there was a lot more to it and a lot more to come out. Might be worth waiting to see what else went on and if an investigation is still ongoing, then having the beans spilled right now may jeopardise the outcome?

The only thing I worry about with this is if ELM is wrongly banned, but Bucks says irrefutable evidence so .....

 

Let the mods get on with andbin time maybe we will get to.i cant see where it ssys eric and glory are the same persona.i read it as two different problems.after all there is only one glory ....i hope peace and love fellow posters.
Whitejock are you serious ?

 

Sorry WJ but via a PM from another member Glory has threatened us with legal action if we do not obey his demand (in that said PM) so if he is playing that game I’ve nothing else to add.

I come here for fun, to talk Leeds United it’s been a baptism of fire this moderator lark, if the **** I’ve seen in 3 days is all part of the regular running of this forum then Bucks and Elland deserve medals.

Sorry if you want more answers WJ but they won’t be coming from me. Added to this the last I heard brb was still looking into ELM and cross referencing certain things with other forums and posters it’s not in our control.

 

For clarification.

Did the supermods bring this to our mods attention which now seems to be implied ?

Or did our mods have suspicions which they asked to be investigated by the supermods as was stated earlier.

 

He has threatened legal action ?.i find that strange coming from someone who put many contraversial posts on here.the soft bugger.

 

Would imagine any talk of legal action is because maybe someone is of the opinion they are being falsely accused.

Glory does not have a second account and his right to deny that allegation has been taken away from him.

Being banned is a another issue completely.

You can ban me or any of us if you like as it's no big deal but please don't state something about me that I know to be false as the reason for doing so.

I can see why that would upset someone way more than a ban.

 

It’s long been intimidated that some have multiple accounts. Apart from the obvious question why? What personality needs that? But if you can be bothered to do it I guess you make them poles apart to engage all other posters otherwise why not just post from your own account?

 

Jammy we know more than your being spoon fed. Glory's still pulling strings and closed one thread so I'm not jumping through hoops answering questions that suit his agenda whilst not being given the same amount of free speech. Please respect our decision for now, Eric is another kettle of fish and it's a real compicated one in which I promise I'll dig deeper with the supermod's

 

We invited the supermods into a 19 page conversation between ourselves that started on Saturday evening and flowed into Sunday and Monday, we brought events to their attention.

The account of ELM uncovered some interesting and surprising issues discovered by a supermod who is still investigating, issues we had not initially noticed.

ELM was banned on Sunday night, Glory this morning.

 

Thank you both for your responses.

But does Glory have a second account in your opinion ?

I only ask because I don't think he does as he's too proud of his comments to allow someone else to take any credit.

 

Would the board please accept my apologies for acting like a big girls blouse on Saturday morning and perhaps in some way contributing to this mess.

It has totally got out of hand.

 

Just catching up on all this stuff. The forum is already small enough but if severals are multiple accouints, I may have been speaking to myself since 2011 ffs

 

Just logged back in to the like your post WJ. Well said. Could say what I think but won't. Now logging back out for a while.

 

I agree with every word of this statement.And you can tell me till the cows come home but I will never believe Eric and Glory are the same person.

 

Haven't asked him,but would say that's to do with the saying they are the same person,nothing else.

 

RIP Leeds not606