http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/...adium-by-revealing-old-oak-consultation-plans "QPR are delivering more than 50,000 newsletters to homes and businesses across west London as part of the consultation on their regeneration plans for Old Oak. The club’s owners, fronted by chairman Tony Fernandes, have long been keen to turn the area between Scrubs Lane and Willesden Junction into a sport and leisure hub that would include thousands of new homes and a 40,000-capacity stadium to be used by Rangers. West London Sport revealed last month that QPR were planning to seek fans’ backing in a campaign to keep the club in the borough of Hammersmith & Fulham and stave off the threat of potential rival developers acquiring the land. The first steps were taken when a page in the match programme for Saturday’s game against Sunderland urged supporters to play their part in the consultation process. And the club have now arranged public exhibitions where their plans for the area – which would be called New Queen’s Park – can be viewed. A website – www.new-queens-park.co.uk – has also been set up. The stadium-led regeneration has already received initial backing from London Mayor Boris Johnson and the relevant local authorities; Hammersmith & Fulham, Ealing and Brent. In addition, QPR say Stadium Capital Developments (SCD), the company spearheading the project on their behalf, has entered into exclusivity land arrangements with Network Rail and other landowners who control major parts of Old Oak. please log in to view this image Securing the Old Oak site is crucial to Fernandes’ long-term ambitions Fernandes said: “We are looking to deliver much more than just a stadium. “We want to create a new destination that we propose to call ‘New Queens Park’. It will serve as a catalyst for regeneration, creating thousands of new jobs and homes for local people. “It will be a major transport hub that will connect Old Oak to the rest of London and other major cities across the UK. “Our new 40,000-seat stadium will become a focal point hosting not just football, but other entertainment and community activities for residents and visitors to enjoy. “This will give us a top quality stadium that will be able to cater for QPR’s needs as the club progresses and grows over the years ahead. “We are very excited about being the driving force behind creating one of the best new urban places in the world, and making this our new home. “There are many local benefits that will arise out of the regeneration of the Old Oak area, including new homes, new jobs and a much improved local environment. “These benefits will be shared widely by the surrounding communities in Hammersmith, Ealing and Brent, including large numbers of our supporters. “This is very much the start of the process. We want to share our ideas and plans and in turn hear from the local community. please log in to view this image Cargiant currently own 45 acres of the land in question “The aim is that local residents, our fans and others with an interest in this part of London will come along and help us shape our proposals. “The forthcoming public exhibitions provide the first opportunity for this, and as our plans evolve we’ll hold more events.” Antony Spencer of SCD, who oversaw Arsenal’s move the Emirates Stadium, is leading QPR’s relocation project. “We envisage a new vibrant, mixed-use and high-quality development that will regenerate the area and turn this neglected but very well-connected area into a new world-class city quarter,” Spencer said. “We have assembled a top-class professional team to design thousands of new homes and new commercial space, including retail, studios and offices, restaurants, cinemas, a hotel and other leisure accommodation.” QPR’s public exhibitions are scheduled as follows: Monday 15 September and Tuesday 16 September:Loftus Road (2pm-8pm) Wednesday 17 September and Thursday 18 September: Holiday Inn London West, 4 Portal Way, North Acton, W3 6RT (4pm-8pm) Friday 19 September: St Mark’s Church Hall, Bathurst Gardens, Kensal Rise, NW10 5HX (12 noon-4pm) Saturday 20 September: St Mark’s Church Hall (9am-1pm) "
This next to staying up, has to be the most important step for us going forward. It really doesn't matter how many seats it has at first. As long as we can make it bigger some way down the track. But there is no point of us trying to get into Europe in a 18000 seater stadium.
Rival developers will be in Cargiant's ears trying to make a buck by offering to build luxury flats - but alot of the land will be owned by British Rail amongst others - so it needs a coherent plan for the whole site or it wont work. This will be in our favour.
Car Giant will do very nicely out of any CPO and will probably be given every assistance to find a new suitable site.....There are so many backers to this plan that it would be almost unthinkable that it will not go through...... Can't re-call but did Arsenal have any problems re-locating from Highbury into what was largely a "Brown Field" site?
"Through the persuasion of estate agent and club property adviser Antony Spencer, Arsenal examined the feasibility of building a new stadium in Ashburton Grove in November 1999.[16] The land, 500 yards (460 m) from Highbury, composed of a rubbish processing plant and industrial estate, 80% owned by the Islington Council, Railtrack and Sainsbury's.[20] The move therefore depended on the club buying out the existing occupants and financing for their relocation. After passing the first significant milestone at the council's planning committee, Arsenal submitted their planning application for a new 60,000 seater stadium in November 2000.[16][21] This included a redevelopment project at Drayton Park, converting the existing ground Highbury as flats and building a new waste station in Lough Road.[16] The scheme also involved the club creating 1,800 new jobs for the community and 2,300 new homes.[22][23] Improvements to three railway stations, Holloway Road, Drayton Park and Finsbury Park, were promised in order to cope with the matchday crowds.[23]"
Update here and it doesn't reflect very well on us to be honest. http://www.london24.com/sport/footb...rules_out_a_new_qpr_stadium_by_2018_1_3756333
If we can draw 45k to Wembley as is, there's certainly the capacity to grow the fanbase to the point where we bring in nearly 40k on a regular basis. And there's no chance Car Giant would be able to stop a project as big as this, especially with the backing the club has.
We should all leave positive feedback on this survey- http://www.new-queens-park.co.uk/ If you click "have your say" it links to a brief 30 second survey. Hopefully fan power can help get this one over the line... Re. attracting 40k; I understand that new house owners around the stadium would be given discounted tickets. That should bolster numbers
The club/stadium are just a Trojan Horse for Tony's consortium to win the competition to lead the development, which is primarily about homes and jobs (quite rightly). QPR give them a nice 'community' angle, perhaps a head start, but I imagine there will be other consortia putting forward plans (including one with CarGiant by the sound of it). There is a long way to go in this, and plenty of uncertainty. 24,000 homes, average of £500,000 selling price (conservative for London, affordable stuff balanced out by high end) = £12bn. £250m for a stadium, chickenfeed. I think the survey on the link is very weak (do you like our very unspecific plans or not) but decided against completing it because I no longer live anywhere near the area, locals (especially local R's fans) should take precedence. I would like the plans more if they explicitly included community sports facilities incorporating QPR training and academy, given that we appear to have abandoned other plans for this. But that would eat into profitability by reducing housing/office space. If it took Arsenal 7 years from a more advanced position than we are in I'm with Wubba and the CarGiant bloke - more like 2021 than 2018. Let's see what Roller found out.
I for one have filled out the questionnaire showing my support for the scheme. It took all of about 1 minute, and I'd urge anyone like me who believes that this project is vital to the future of the club and wants it to happen to do likewise. Find it here under the "Have Your Say" button: http://www.new-queens-park.co.uk/ URs!!
They've circulated more detailed surveys previously; I think the point of this one is simply to allow people add their "+1" to the general proposal of a new stadium- hence why it's so brief. You'd image there'll be far more detailed communications in future.
Fair shout Grif, though I still feel a bit strange voicing an opinion on something that is much bigger for the locals than simply a stadium from over a hundred miles away. But I'll add my tick. Ciao professore.
You forget we have all the authorities on our side! Car giant will want to negotiate more than us cause they'll be very aware that when push comes to shove, when it gets the go ahead they'll be out on their arse and will get paid the going rate. Can anyone really see land in that area benign worth 5 million per acre? It's only 2 weeks ago since he first piped up and said they hadn't heard a whisper from us. He's just posturing trying to get too price, but if he tries to be too greedy then they'll lose out.
He sounds so reasonable but its pretty clear he thinks he has the club over a barrel: "this site now represents their last chance to move and remain in the area." I don't think any business is going to not want to maximise their earnings but he is clearly using the fact that the development plan has vastly increased the potential value of the land. The relevant authorities need to step in to ensure that a compromise can be reached that give Car Giant reasonable payback but also does not price a new stadium out of the equation.
Tell me, is it just a coincidence that farabutto starts with an f? Non mi fido di quel buffone. It's Michael O'Leary served up in a malaysian sauce.
Ha! Had to look farabutto up, great word. It's not so much trust for me, but I am having doubts. Too desperate to please, too enthusiastic, too OTT. Competence....not sure. Ma e sempre lo stesso con i capi (apologies for errors). Good book for you Savage Continent, an account of the chaos that followed World War 2, lots of stuff about how Togliati held back the regional and local PCI from revolution, and the totally not party linked peasant syndicates that bloomed, and were then crushed, in the south. Not a patch on what went on in Greece though.
Togliatti, great man, there was a whole city named after him in the Soviet Union: Togliattigrad, home of the glorious Lada. Back in the seventies I was friends with the son of Togliatti's ex personal secretary (and probably lover), her husband had been assassinated in the Fosse Ardeatine massacre. Giacchini was her husband's surname but it's so many years I forget her name. Proper old time comrade from the glory days of the PCI. Feeling nostalgia for the smoke of sausages that was ever present at the Feste dell'Unità and the wonderfully named Case del Popolo, "Yuri Gagarin" springs to mind! In terms of politics we're probably heading for our own meltdown of the old parties, Tories are calling for postponement of next May's General Election if there's a "Yes" vote.
