Right, with the transfer window swung open I'd like to put out a challenge for you guys to put HONEST valuations on the following players from Liverpools first team squad. Please remember to think about age, reputation, previous fees, etc 1. Jones 2. Johnson 3. Konchesky 4. Meireles 5. Agger 6. Aurelio 7. Suarez 8. Gerrard 9. Carroll 10. J Cole 12. Pacheco 14. Jovanovic 16. Kyrgiakos 17. Maxi 18. Kuyt 21. Lucas 22. D Wilson 23. Carragher 24. Ngog 25. Reina 26. Spearing 28. Poulsen 30. Suso 31. Sterling 32. Darby 33. Shelvey 34. Kelly 35. Coady 36. Irwin 37. Skrtel 38. Flanagan 39. Eccleston 40. Ayala 41. Hansen 42. Gulacsi 44. Mendy 45. Ince 46. Amoo 47. Wisdom 48. Bruna 49. Robinson - Aquilani - Degen - El Zhar - Insua - Henderson
1. Jones - 500k-1m 2. Johnson - 15m 3. Konchesky - .. 4. Meireles - 10m-15m (Only because of his age) 5. Agger - 8m-12m (He is a quality defender when he gets a few games under his belt) 6. Aurelio - 1m-3m (Too injury prone, quality when he does get a game though) 7. Suarez - 25m-40m 8. Gerrard - 20m-30m 9. Carroll - 15m-25m 10. J Cole - 1m-3m 12. Pacheco - 4m-8m 14. Jovanovic 3m-6m 16. Kyrgiakos 1m-3m (Only because of age) 17. Maxi - 5m-8m (He is quality, I have always rated this guy) 18. Kuyt - 8m-15m (I never want to see the back of this lad, fantastic player) 21. Lucas - 15m-20m 22. D Wilson - 1m-5m (Haven't see much, but I see his potential) 23. Carragher - 8m-15m (A little outrageous because of his age, but he has somewhat sentimental value) 24. Ngog - 4m-8m 25. Reina - 15m-20m 26. Spearing - 3m-6m (He is good, but he isn't at his peak yet) 28. Poulsen - 2m-4m 30. Suso - 1m-3m (Potential) 31. Sterling - 1m (Potential) 32. Darby - 500k-1m (Doesn't seem quality, can't see his valuation rising much more) 33. Shelvey - 3m-7m (Something about this one) 34. Kelly - 7m-14m (Honestly a great player, based on his potential, current ability and age) 35. Coady - 1m-2m (Potential) 36. Irwin - 1m-1.5m (Potential) 37. Skrtel - 5m-8m (Good player, sometimes suspect at the back but does his job to a decent standard) 38. Flanagan - 1m-2m (Potential) 39. Eccleston - 1m-2m (Potential) 40. Ayala - 1m-2m (Potential) 41. Hansen - 1m-2m (Potential) 42. Gulacsi - 1m-2m (Potential) 44. Mendy - 1m-2m (Potential) 45. Ince - 1m-2m (Potential) 46. Amoo - 1m-2m (Potential) 47. Wisdom - 1m-2m (Potential) 48. Bruna - 1m-2m (Potential) 49. Robinson - 1m-2m (Potential) - Aquilani - 14m-18m - Degen - 500k-2m (Age isn't on his side, and his decling at best) - El Zhar - 2m-3m (Hasn't had the chance, remains unproven, hence the tag) - Insua - 2m-3m (Same as 'El Zhar') - Henderson - 8m-12m (Based on age, potential and current ability) These prices don't really include the insane inflation, just true base values, of course it'd probably take more than these to sell the players) *(Potential) - Not really a accurate price on most, just a price on how much it would take for us to consider offers (Based on potential of course).
1. Jones = 2.4m, 2. Johnson = 9.5m, 3. Konchesky = 3.2m, 4. Meireles = 13.0m, 5. Agger = 11.0m, 6. Aurelio = 4.4m, 7. Suarez = 27.5m, 8. Gerrard = 32.0m, 9. Carroll = 22m, 10. J.Cole = 3.9m, 12. Pacheco = 2.5m, 14. Jovanovic = 2.0m, 16. Kyrgiakos = 3.2m, 17. Maxi = 7.8m, 18. Kuyt = 14.5m, 21. Lucas = 12.2m, 22. D Wilson = 1.5m, 23. Carragher = 9.5m, 24. Ngog = 4.5m, 25. Reina = 26.0m, 26. Spearing = 7.0m, 28. Poulsen = 2.5m, 30. Suso = 2.2m, 31. Sterling = 3.5m, 32. Darby = Free, 33. Shelvey = 4.0m, 34. Kelly = 13.0m, 35. Coady = 4.0m, 36. Irwin = 0.5m, 37. Skrtel = 7.0m, 38. Flanagan = 5.0m, 39. Eccleston = 1.4m, 40. Ayala = 4.5m, 41. Hansen = 1.1m, 42. Gulacsi = 1.9m, 44. Mendy = <1.0m, 45. Ince = 2.0m, 46. Amoo = 2.1m, 47. Wisdom = 1.4m, 48. Bruna = 1.5m, 49. Robinson = 3.5m Aquilani = 15m, Degen = Free, El Zhar = Free, Insua = 3.0m, Henderson = 16.0m.
Wow, how accurate, but their are a few I disagree with Green - Too high Red - Too low The rest are either within what I valued them at, or fair enough
1. Jones 500 2. Johnson 9 3. Konchesky free 4. Meireles 18 5. Agger 16 6. Aurelio free 7. Suarez 80 8. Gerrard 18 9. Carroll 18 10. J Cole 2.5 12. Pacheco 9 14. Jovanovic 1 16. Kyrgiakos 1 17. Maxi 6 18. Kuyt 9 21. Lucas 18 22. D Wilson 3 23. Carragher Priceless 24. Ngog 3 25. Reina 18 26. Spearing 6 28. Poulsen 500 30. Suso 19 31. Sterling 28 32. Darby 1.5 33. Shelvey 7 34. Kelly 16 35. Coady 19 36. Irwin 9 37. Skrtel 5 38. Flanagan 8 39. Eccleston 6 40. Ayala 9 41. Hansen 2 42. Gulacsi 3 44. Mendy 1.5 45. Ince 4 46. Amoo 1.5 47. Wisdom 9 48. Bruna 2 49. Robinson 9 - Aquilani 10 - Degen 500 - El Zhar 1.5 - Insua 5 - Henderson 19
We bought Johnson for too much to begin with, unfortunately just couldn't see anyone paying too much for him. We bought Jones for roughly 2.4m + he's been loaned out, so his price won't have changed. Konchesky we bought for 4m and his value has dropped, but I'm sure someone somewhere would pay 3m for him? No? Okay.. closer to 2m then Aurelio is still class on his day. Gerrard would have to be worth 32m, because I don't think we'd sell him for anything less, and the only clubs who would want him are those with masses of money e.g. City, Chelsea and Real Madrid. Reina is one of the most sort after goalkeepers in the world. Kelly is priced at 13m based on the fact he's English, he's got obvious talent and he's made a very good impression so far. Those are my justifications, if you agree or not that's fine.
NFS - NOT FORSALE 1. Jones - NFS (if only for personal reasons) 2. Johnson - NFS 3. Konchesky - £whatever we can get 4. Meireles - NFS 5. Agger - NFS 6. Aurelio - FREE 7. Suarez - NFS 8. Gerrard - £25m 9. Carroll - NFS 10. J Cole - £5m 12. Pacheco NFS (loan maybe) 14. Jovanovic - £whatever we can get 16. Kyrgiakos - £FREE 17. Maxi - £10m 18. Kuyt - £15m 21. Lucas - NFS 22. D Wilson - £5m 23. Carragher - He'd refuse to leave 24. Ngog - £8m 25. Reina - NFS 26. Spearing - £8m 28. Poulsen - £whatever we can get 30. Suso - NFS 31. Sterling - NFS 32. Darby - ? 33. Shelvey - NFS 34. Kelly - NFS 35. Coady - ? 36. Irwin - ? 37. Skrtel - NFS 38. Flanagan - NFS 39. Eccleston - NFS 40. Ayala - ? 41. Hansen - ? 42. Gulacsi - ? 44. Mendy - ? 45. Ince - ? 46. Amoo - ? 47. Wisdom - ? 48. Bruna - ? 49. Robinson - ? - Aquilani - £15m - Degen - £whatever we can get - El Zhar - " " " " - Insua - " " " " - Henderson - NFS
Ahh right I understand, my valuations were taking lots into consideration but not selling prices and insane inflation (Although some had to be taken into consideration). I see where you've come from to be honest and I reckon the likes of Carragher, Carroll, Gerrard, Suarez and Kelly are now players who are held in such high regard that I don't think they would consider selling. Although I'd love Kuyt and Lucas added to that list.
You have to take into account that the reason that Glen Johnson's fee was £18.5 million was because Portsmouth already owed Liverpool £7 million from the Crouch sale.Liverpool really only paid £11.5 million for Glen Johnson.Both fees will be written in the accounts as £11 million and £18.5 million respectively.However when two clubs do business,they can do it that way. A similar thing happened(and this is just my opinion so don't shoot me) with Liverpool and Real Madrid regarding Michael Owen and Fernando Morientes.Everybody knows that the Owen deal was £10 million(£8.5 million and Antonio Nunez(£1.5 million).However Real Madrid only paid £4.5 million in cash.There was still £4 million outstanding.So I reckon Liverpool only paid Real Madrid £2.5 million in cash for Fernando Morientes.The two deals will in the accounts be £10 million and £6.5 million,However thats just accounts.
1. Jones -1m 2. Johnson - 16m 3. Konchesky - 1.5m 4. Meireles - £20mil 5. Agger - 17m 6. Aurelio -3m 7. Suarez - 50m 8. Gerrard - 25m 9. Carroll -35m 10. J Cole -4m 12. Pacheco -4m 14. Jovanovic -4m 16. Kyrgiakos -1.5m 17. Maxi -10m 18. Kuyt -20m 21. Lucas -20m 22. D Wilson -4m 23. Carragher -8m 24. Ngog -7m 25. Reina -30m 26. Spearing -5m 28. Poulsen -2.5m 30. Suso - ?? 31. Sterling - ?? 32. Darby -?? 33. Shelvey - 3m 34. Kelly -22m 35. Coady -?? 36. Irwin -?? 37. Skrtel -12m 38. Flanagan -2.5m 39. Eccleston -?? 40. Ayala -2.5m 41. Hansen -?? 42. Gulacsi -?? 44. Mendy -?? 45. Ince -?? 46. Amoo -?? 47. Wisdom -?? 48. Bruna -?? 49. Robinson -1m - Aquilani -16m - Degen -2m - El Zhar -0.5m - Insua -6m - Henderson -?? ?? are the players I havnt seen enough to judge
IMO 1. Jones 1.5-2m 2. Johnson 12m 3. Konchesky 2m 4. Meireles 15m 5. Agger 10m 6. Aurelio 2-3m (due to injuries cause he is a quality player) 7. Suarez 40m 8. Gerrard 25m 9. Carroll 22m 10. J Cole 3-4m 12. Pacheco 7m 14. Jovanovic 4m 16. Kyrgiakos 2m 17. Maxi 7m 18. Kuyt 12-14m 21. Lucas 15m 22. D Wilson 5m 23. Carragher 7-9m (due to age) 24. Ngog 6-8m 25. Reina 25m 26. Spearing 5m 28. Poulsen 2.5m 30. Suso 4m 31. Sterling 4m 32. Darby 1m 33. Shelvey 6m 34. Kelly 12m 35. Coady 4m 36. Irwin 2m 37. Skrtel 10m 38. Flanagan 4m 39. Eccleston 1.5m 40. Ayala 4m 41. Hansen 0.5m 42. Gulacsi 2m 44. Mendy 0.5m 45. Ince 3m 46. Amoo 2m 47. Wisdom 3m 48. Bruna 2m 49. Robinson 4m - Aquilani 14m - Degen 1m - El Zhar 2m - Insua 5m - Henderson 15m
My list was pretty bad but one thing I think I was correct on is that we won't get much if anything for Konchesky, some people saying as much as 3mill. IMO he will stay in the Championship and be sold for 500.000 max.
1. Jones- £2M 2. Johnson- £12M 3. Konchesky- £1.3M 4. Meireles- £11M 5. Agger- £9M 6. Aurelio- £2.5M 7. Suarez- £28M 8. Gerrard- £24M 9. Carroll- £19M 10. J Cole- £3.5M 12. Pacheco- £6M 14. Jovanovic- £2.7M 16. Kyrgiakos- £1.0M 17. Maxi- £7M 18. Kuyt- £14M 21. Lucas-£13.8M 22. D Wilson- £4M 23. Carragher- £7-8M 24. Ngog- £4.9M 25. Reina- £25M 26. Spearing- £6M 28. Poulsen- £2.5M 30. Suso- £4-5M 31. Sterling- £4-5M 32. Darby- £900,000 33. Shelvey- £4.3M 34. Kelly- £11M 35. Coady- £4M 36. Irwin- £1-2M 37. Skrtel- £8M 38. Flanagan- £5M 39. Eccleston- £3.4M 40. Ayala- £4M 41. Hansen- £1.5M 42. Gulacsi- £2.5M 44. Mendy- £1.5M 45. Ince- £3.5M 46. Amoo- £2.5M 47. Wisdom- £2.9M 48. Bruna- £2.0M 49. Robinson- £3.5M - Aquilani- £13M - Degen- £1M - El Zhar- £500,000 - Insua- £2.4M - Henderson- £12M
You guyts obviously havent seen much of Amoo, he was on loan with us, poor control, didnt read the game well and always out of position, and that was in the Championship! He is quick and age is on his side, worth 500K tops
1. Jones - 1 mil 2. Johnson -14 mil 3. Konchesky- kfc bargain bucket with coleslaw 4. Meireles - 12 mil 5. Agger -12 mil 6. Aurelio -2.5 mil 7. Suarez - priceless at this time 8. Gerrard - 25 mil 9. Carroll - 18 mil 10. J Cole - 5 mil 12. Pacheco - 5 mil 14. Jovanovic -3 mil 16. Kyrgiakos - 1.5 mil 17. Maxi - 9 mil 18. Kuyt -9 mil 21. Lucas - 18 mil 22. D Wilson -3 mil 23. Carragher - 4 mil (due to his age) 24. Ngog - 4 mil max 25. Reina - 27 mil 26. Spearing - 6 mil 28. Poulsen - a twix and half eaten pack of nik naks 30. Suso - 3 mil (due to lack of experience) 31. Sterling - 10 mil (if that chamberline kid is worth that then raheem definately is) 32. Darby - who? lol 33. Shelvey - 4 mil 34. Kelly - 7.5 mil 35. Coady - 3 mil 36. Irwin - 3 mil 37. Skrtel - 10 mil 38. Flanagan - 5 mil 39. Eccleston - 500g 40. Ayala - 2 mil 41. Hansen - 1 mil 42. Gulacsi - 2 mil 44. Mendy - 3 mil 45. Ince - 750g 46. Amoo -1 mil 47. Wisdom - 500g 48. Bruna -500g 49. Robinson - 3 mil - Aquilani - 12mil - Degen - 1 mil - El Zhar - partially cooked kofte kebab with salad - Insua - 7 mil - Henderson 15 mil
Do you realise that comes to just over 245 mil + a priceless + a partially cooced kofte kebab with salad +a twix and a half esten pack of nik naks + a kfc bargain bucket with coleslaw?