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Put Transfer Fees on these players

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Bozz

    Bozz Well-Known Member

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    Right, with the transfer window swung open I'd like to put out a challenge for you guys to put HONEST valuations on the following players from Liverpools first team squad. Please remember to think about age, reputation, previous fees, etc

    1. Jones
    2. Johnson
    3. Konchesky
    4. Meireles
    5. Agger
    6. Aurelio
    7. Suarez
    8. Gerrard
    9. Carroll
    10. J Cole
    12. Pacheco
    14. Jovanovic
    16. Kyrgiakos
    17. Maxi
    18. Kuyt
    21. Lucas
    22. D Wilson
    23. Carragher
    24. Ngog
    25. Reina
    26. Spearing
    28. Poulsen
    30. Suso
    31. Sterling
    32. Darby
    33. Shelvey
    34. Kelly
    35. Coady
    36. Irwin
    37. Skrtel
    38. Flanagan
    39. Eccleston
    40. Ayala
    41. Hansen
    42. Gulacsi
    44. Mendy
    45. Ince
    46. Amoo
    47. Wisdom
    48. Bruna
    49. Robinson
    - Aquilani
    - Degen
    - El Zhar
    - Insua
    - Henderson
     
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  2. Salah's-left-foot

    Salah's-left-foot Well-Known Member

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    1. Jones - 500k-1m
    2. Johnson - 15m
    3. Konchesky - ..
    4. Meireles - 10m-15m (Only because of his age)
    5. Agger - 8m-12m (He is a quality defender when he gets a few games under his belt)
    6. Aurelio - 1m-3m (Too injury prone, quality when he does get a game though)
    7. Suarez - 25m-40m
    8. Gerrard - 20m-30m
    9. Carroll - 15m-25m
    10. J Cole - 1m-3m
    12. Pacheco - 4m-8m
    14. Jovanovic 3m-6m
    16. Kyrgiakos 1m-3m (Only because of age)
    17. Maxi - 5m-8m (He is quality, I have always rated this guy)
    18. Kuyt - 8m-15m (I never want to see the back of this lad, fantastic player)
    21. Lucas - 15m-20m
    22. D Wilson - 1m-5m (Haven't see much, but I see his potential)
    23. Carragher - 8m-15m (A little outrageous because of his age, but he has somewhat sentimental value)
    24. Ngog - 4m-8m
    25. Reina - 15m-20m
    26. Spearing - 3m-6m (He is good, but he isn't at his peak yet)
    28. Poulsen - 2m-4m
    30. Suso - 1m-3m (Potential)
    31. Sterling - 1m (Potential)
    32. Darby - 500k-1m (Doesn't seem quality, can't see his valuation rising much more)
    33. Shelvey - 3m-7m (Something about this one)
    34. Kelly - 7m-14m (Honestly a great player, based on his potential, current ability and age)
    35. Coady - 1m-2m (Potential)
    36. Irwin - 1m-1.5m (Potential)
    37. Skrtel - 5m-8m (Good player, sometimes suspect at the back but does his job to a decent standard)
    38. Flanagan - 1m-2m (Potential)
    39. Eccleston - 1m-2m (Potential)
    40. Ayala - 1m-2m (Potential)
    41. Hansen - 1m-2m (Potential)
    42. Gulacsi - 1m-2m (Potential)
    44. Mendy - 1m-2m (Potential)
    45. Ince - 1m-2m (Potential)
    46. Amoo - 1m-2m (Potential)
    47. Wisdom - 1m-2m (Potential)
    48. Bruna - 1m-2m (Potential)
    49. Robinson - 1m-2m (Potential)
    - Aquilani - 14m-18m
    - Degen - 500k-2m (Age isn't on his side, and his decling at best)
    - El Zhar - 2m-3m (Hasn't had the chance, remains unproven, hence the tag)
    - Insua - 2m-3m (Same as 'El Zhar')
    - Henderson - 8m-12m (Based on age, potential and current ability)

    These prices don't really include the insane inflation, just true base values, of course it'd probably take more than these to sell the players)

    *(Potential) - Not really a accurate price on most, just a price on how much it would take for us to consider offers (Based on potential of course).
     
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  3. Ze

    Ze Well-Known Member

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    1. Jones = 2.4m, 2. Johnson = 9.5m, 3. Konchesky = 3.2m, 4. Meireles = 13.0m, 5. Agger = 11.0m, 6. Aurelio = 4.4m, 7. Suarez = 27.5m, 8. Gerrard = 32.0m, 9. Carroll = 22m, 10. J.Cole = 3.9m, 12. Pacheco = 2.5m, 14. Jovanovic = 2.0m, 16. Kyrgiakos = 3.2m, 17. Maxi = 7.8m, 18. Kuyt = 14.5m, 21. Lucas = 12.2m, 22. D Wilson = 1.5m, 23. Carragher = 9.5m, 24. Ngog = 4.5m, 25. Reina = 26.0m, 26. Spearing = 7.0m, 28. Poulsen = 2.5m, 30. Suso = 2.2m, 31. Sterling = 3.5m, 32. Darby = Free, 33. Shelvey = 4.0m, 34. Kelly = 13.0m, 35. Coady = 4.0m, 36. Irwin = 0.5m, 37. Skrtel = 7.0m, 38. Flanagan = 5.0m, 39. Eccleston = 1.4m, 40. Ayala = 4.5m, 41. Hansen = 1.1m, 42. Gulacsi = 1.9m, 44. Mendy = <1.0m, 45. Ince = 2.0m, 46. Amoo = 2.1m, 47. Wisdom = 1.4m, 48. Bruna = 1.5m, 49. Robinson = 3.5m

    Aquilani = 15m,
    Degen = Free,
    El Zhar = Free,
    Insua = 3.0m,
    Henderson = 16.0m.
     
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  4. Salah's-left-foot

    Salah's-left-foot Well-Known Member

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    Wow, how accurate, but their are a few I disagree with

    Green - Too high
    Red - Too low

    The rest are either within what I valued them at, or fair enough <ok>
     
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  5. luvgonzo

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    1. Jones 500
    2. Johnson 9
    3. Konchesky free
    4. Meireles 18
    5. Agger 16
    6. Aurelio free
    7. Suarez 80
    8. Gerrard 18
    9. Carroll 18
    10. J Cole 2.5
    12. Pacheco 9
    14. Jovanovic 1
    16. Kyrgiakos 1
    17. Maxi 6
    18. Kuyt 9
    21. Lucas 18
    22. D Wilson 3
    23. Carragher Priceless
    24. Ngog 3
    25. Reina 18
    26. Spearing 6
    28. Poulsen 500
    30. Suso 19
    31. Sterling 28
    32. Darby 1.5
    33. Shelvey 7
    34. Kelly 16
    35. Coady 19
    36. Irwin 9
    37. Skrtel 5
    38. Flanagan 8
    39. Eccleston 6
    40. Ayala 9
    41. Hansen 2
    42. Gulacsi 3
    44. Mendy 1.5
    45. Ince 4
    46. Amoo 1.5
    47. Wisdom 9
    48. Bruna 2
    49. Robinson 9
    - Aquilani 10
    - Degen 500
    - El Zhar 1.5
    - Insua 5
    - Henderson 19
     
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  6. Ze

    Ze Well-Known Member

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    We bought Johnson for too much to begin with, unfortunately just couldn't see anyone paying too much for him.
    We bought Jones for roughly 2.4m + he's been loaned out, so his price won't have changed.
    Konchesky we bought for 4m and his value has dropped, but I'm sure someone somewhere would pay 3m for him? No? Okay.. closer to 2m then ;)
    Aurelio is still class on his day.
    Gerrard would have to be worth 32m, because I don't think we'd sell him for anything less, and the only clubs who would want him are those with masses of money e.g. City, Chelsea and Real Madrid.
    Reina is one of the most sort after goalkeepers in the world.
    Kelly is priced at 13m based on the fact he's English, he's got obvious talent and he's made a very good impression so far.

    Those are my justifications, if you agree or not that's fine.
     
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  7. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    NFS - NOT FORSALE

    1. Jones - NFS (if only for personal reasons)
    2. Johnson - NFS
    3. Konchesky - £whatever we can get
    4. Meireles - NFS
    5. Agger - NFS
    6. Aurelio - FREE
    7. Suarez - NFS
    8. Gerrard - £25m
    9. Carroll - NFS
    10. J Cole - £5m
    12. Pacheco NFS (loan maybe)
    14. Jovanovic - £whatever we can get
    16. Kyrgiakos - £FREE
    17. Maxi - £10m
    18. Kuyt - £15m
    21. Lucas - NFS
    22. D Wilson - £5m
    23. Carragher - He'd refuse to leave
    24. Ngog - £8m
    25. Reina - NFS
    26. Spearing - £8m
    28. Poulsen - £whatever we can get
    30. Suso - NFS
    31. Sterling - NFS
    32. Darby - ?
    33. Shelvey - NFS
    34. Kelly - NFS
    35. Coady - ?
    36. Irwin - ?
    37. Skrtel - NFS
    38. Flanagan - NFS
    39. Eccleston - NFS
    40. Ayala - ?
    41. Hansen - ?
    42. Gulacsi - ?
    44. Mendy - ?
    45. Ince - ?
    46. Amoo - ?
    47. Wisdom - ?
    48. Bruna - ?
    49. Robinson - ?
    - Aquilani - £15m
    - Degen - £whatever we can get
    - El Zhar - " " " "
    - Insua - " " " "
    - Henderson - NFS
     
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  8. Salah's-left-foot

    Salah's-left-foot Well-Known Member

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    Ahh right I understand, my valuations were taking lots into consideration but not selling prices and insane inflation (Although some had to be taken into consideration).

    I see where you've come from to be honest and I reckon the likes of Carragher, Carroll, Gerrard, Suarez and Kelly are now players who are held in such high regard that I don't think they would consider selling. Although I'd love Kuyt and Lucas added to that list.
     
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  9. Muppetfinder General

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    What they all said.

    *scarpers*
     
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  10. KingPepeReina.

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    You have to take into account that the reason that Glen Johnson's fee was £18.5 million was because Portsmouth already owed Liverpool £7 million from the Crouch sale.Liverpool really only paid £11.5 million for Glen Johnson.Both fees will be written in the accounts as £11 million and £18.5 million respectively.However when two clubs do business,they can do it that way.
    A similar thing happened(and this is just my opinion so don't shoot me) with Liverpool and Real Madrid regarding Michael Owen and Fernando Morientes.Everybody knows that the Owen deal was £10 million(£8.5 million and Antonio Nunez(£1.5 million).However Real Madrid only paid £4.5 million in cash.There was still £4 million outstanding.So I reckon Liverpool only paid Real Madrid £2.5 million in cash for Fernando Morientes.The two deals will in the accounts be £10 million and £6.5 million,However thats just accounts.
     
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  11. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    1. Jones -1m
    2. Johnson - 16m
    3. Konchesky - 1.5m
    4. Meireles - £20mil
    5. Agger - 17m
    6. Aurelio -3m
    7. Suarez - 50m
    8. Gerrard - 25m
    9. Carroll -35m
    10. J Cole -4m
    12. Pacheco -4m
    14. Jovanovic -4m
    16. Kyrgiakos -1.5m
    17. Maxi -10m
    18. Kuyt -20m
    21. Lucas -20m
    22. D Wilson -4m
    23. Carragher -8m
    24. Ngog -7m
    25. Reina -30m
    26. Spearing -5m
    28. Poulsen -2.5m
    30. Suso - ??
    31. Sterling - ??
    32. Darby -??
    33. Shelvey - 3m
    34. Kelly -22m
    35. Coady -??
    36. Irwin -??
    37. Skrtel -12m
    38. Flanagan -2.5m
    39. Eccleston -??
    40. Ayala -2.5m
    41. Hansen -??
    42. Gulacsi -??
    44. Mendy -??
    45. Ince -??
    46. Amoo -??
    47. Wisdom -??
    48. Bruna -??
    49. Robinson -1m
    - Aquilani -16m
    - Degen -2m
    - El Zhar -0.5m
    - Insua -6m
    - Henderson -??

    ?? are the players I havnt seen enough to judge
     
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  12. Salah's-left-foot

    Salah's-left-foot Well-Known Member

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    You must be joking?
     
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  13. luvgonzo

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    Did it pretty quick. Some are a bit nuts!
     
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  14. jonni911

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    IMO

    1. Jones 1.5-2m
    2. Johnson 12m
    3. Konchesky 2m
    4. Meireles 15m
    5. Agger 10m
    6. Aurelio 2-3m (due to injuries cause he is a quality player)
    7. Suarez 40m
    8. Gerrard 25m
    9. Carroll 22m
    10. J Cole 3-4m
    12. Pacheco 7m
    14. Jovanovic 4m
    16. Kyrgiakos 2m
    17. Maxi 7m
    18. Kuyt 12-14m
    21. Lucas 15m
    22. D Wilson 5m
    23. Carragher 7-9m (due to age)
    24. Ngog 6-8m
    25. Reina 25m
    26. Spearing 5m
    28. Poulsen 2.5m
    30. Suso 4m
    31. Sterling 4m
    32. Darby 1m
    33. Shelvey 6m
    34. Kelly 12m
    35. Coady 4m
    36. Irwin 2m
    37. Skrtel 10m
    38. Flanagan 4m
    39. Eccleston 1.5m
    40. Ayala 4m
    41. Hansen 0.5m
    42. Gulacsi 2m
    44. Mendy 0.5m
    45. Ince 3m
    46. Amoo 2m
    47. Wisdom 3m
    48. Bruna 2m
    49. Robinson 4m
    - Aquilani 14m
    - Degen 1m
    - El Zhar 2m
    - Insua 5m
    - Henderson 15m
     
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  15. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    My list was pretty bad but one thing I think I was correct on is that we won't get much if anything for Konchesky, some people saying as much as 3mill. IMO he will stay in the Championship and be sold for 500.000 max.
     
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  16. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    1. Jones- £2M
    2. Johnson- £12M
    3. Konchesky- £1.3M
    4. Meireles- £11M
    5. Agger- £9M
    6. Aurelio- £2.5M
    7. Suarez- £28M
    8. Gerrard- £24M
    9. Carroll- £19M
    10. J Cole- £3.5M
    12. Pacheco- £6M
    14. Jovanovic- £2.7M
    16. Kyrgiakos- £1.0M
    17. Maxi- £7M
    18. Kuyt- £14M
    21. Lucas-£13.8M
    22. D Wilson- £4M
    23. Carragher- £7-8M
    24. Ngog- £4.9M
    25. Reina- £25M
    26. Spearing- £6M
    28. Poulsen- £2.5M
    30. Suso- £4-5M
    31. Sterling- £4-5M
    32. Darby- £900,000
    33. Shelvey- £4.3M
    34. Kelly- £11M
    35. Coady- £4M
    36. Irwin- £1-2M
    37. Skrtel- £8M
    38. Flanagan- £5M
    39. Eccleston- £3.4M
    40. Ayala- £4M
    41. Hansen- £1.5M
    42. Gulacsi- £2.5M
    44. Mendy- £1.5M
    45. Ince- £3.5M
    46. Amoo- £2.5M
    47. Wisdom- £2.9M
    48. Bruna- £2.0M
    49. Robinson- £3.5M

    - Aquilani- £13M
    - Degen- £1M
    - El Zhar- £500,000
    - Insua- £2.4M
    - Henderson- £12M

    <ok>
     
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  17. citycityhull

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    You guyts obviously havent seen much of Amoo, he was on loan with us, poor control, didnt read the game well and always out of position, and that was in the Championship! He is quick and age is on his side, worth 500K tops
     
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  18. Bozz

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    How did Ayala get on when he was with you?
     
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  19. I BELIEVE IN FOOTBALL

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    1. Jones - 1 mil
    2. Johnson -14 mil
    3. Konchesky- kfc bargain bucket with coleslaw
    4. Meireles - 12 mil
    5. Agger -12 mil
    6. Aurelio -2.5 mil
    7. Suarez - priceless at this time
    8. Gerrard - 25 mil
    9. Carroll - 18 mil
    10. J Cole - 5 mil
    12. Pacheco - 5 mil
    14. Jovanovic -3 mil
    16. Kyrgiakos - 1.5 mil
    17. Maxi - 9 mil
    18. Kuyt -9 mil
    21. Lucas - 18 mil
    22. D Wilson -3 mil
    23. Carragher - 4 mil (due to his age)
    24. Ngog - 4 mil max
    25. Reina - 27 mil
    26. Spearing - 6 mil
    28. Poulsen - a twix and half eaten pack of nik naks
    30. Suso - 3 mil (due to lack of experience)
    31. Sterling - 10 mil (if that chamberline kid is worth that then raheem definately is)
    32. Darby - who? lol
    33. Shelvey - 4 mil
    34. Kelly - 7.5 mil
    35. Coady - 3 mil
    36. Irwin - 3 mil
    37. Skrtel - 10 mil
    38. Flanagan - 5 mil
    39. Eccleston - 500g
    40. Ayala - 2 mil
    41. Hansen - 1 mil
    42. Gulacsi - 2 mil
    44. Mendy - 3 mil
    45. Ince - 750g
    46. Amoo -1 mil
    47. Wisdom - 500g
    48. Bruna -500g
    49. Robinson - 3 mil
    - Aquilani - 12mil
    - Degen - 1 mil
    - El Zhar - partially cooked kofte kebab with salad
    - Insua - 7 mil
    - Henderson 15 mil
     
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  20. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Do you realise that comes to just over 245 mil + a priceless + a partially cooced kofte kebab with salad +a twix and a half esten pack of nik naks + a kfc bargain bucket with coleslaw?
     
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