Leeds supporters are clearly very unhappy with Bates, and it seems more and more that the feeling will result in protests against the chairman. It seems we are not the only ones. Everton fans are gearing up to start a campaign to get the board to sell the club to more ambitious owners. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14834439.stm I really appreciate the fact that Leeds fans are starting protests outside the ground pre-game now, and I think the Scum game is probably the perfect match to target to really make a point. The idea to spend the first five minutes of the game outside the ground chanting Bates out while the Sky cameras are there is just brilliant. Wonder what the media would make of an empty stadium save for th Scummers? Bet that Bates will really feel that!! Oh my, thousands of Leeds fans singing Bates out while the cameras film empty seats is really powerful. Will Bates stay in his seat when the Leeds fans then pour into the stadium and continue with Bates out chants? It will be the funniest thing to see...Bates' mug being zoomed in to and shown full screen on tellys all around the world!! Maybe a potential buyer will be watching Well, I guess the only people who can make this happen is us...the lowly supporters of the famous Leeds United Football Club. Bates, it's time to pack your lunch box and get out of Dodge!!!
sorry dont adree with u pal---its like 1 day strikes all u just lose 1 days pay---no good---it has to be all out until a decision
Firstly an empty stadium would make great statement, but face it this is not going to happen... Secondly Ken Bates would love the attention that 38,000 fans chanting "Bates Out" would get him, he can dismiss as morons etc. So. Let's get to the point and chant: "Corruption Out" & "FA Out" as well Remember that the Football Governance Committee called for the FA to investigate. But surprise surprise they have not, why are they not investigating Ken Bates or helping the fans?? http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmcumeds/792/79208.htm "192. We recommend that robust ownership rules, including a strong fit and proper persons test, consistently applied throughout the professional game with the FA having a strong scrutiny and oversight role, should be a key component of the licensing model we propose. The presumption should be against proposals to sell the ground unless it is in the interests of the club. There should be complete transparency around ownership and the terms of loans provided by directors to the club. In this respect, there is no more blatant an example of lack of transparency than the recent ownership history of Leeds United, and we urge the FA to demonstrate its new resolve by conducting a thorough investigation and, if necessary, to seek the assistance of Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs." We will never influance Ken Bates by chanting, but we can use live worldwide coverage to influance UEFA and FIFA to question why the english FA have not acted in accordance with the Football Governance Committee calls for them to investigate.
and nash, what if he is not found to do anything illegal which i would suspect to be the case... I actually think the lack of transparency was to protect the old owners and im gonna guess because they most likely had a large amount of money and did not want pressure from fans to provide funding. Anyway that is irrelevant, just because there is not transparency in the ownership and dealings with the club does not mean that things that are happening with the club are illegal, it could be many different scenarios.
JOSH. Who is saying anything illegal occurred?? It is just strange that the Football Governance Committee called for the FA to investigate but nothing has been done. The fact is that they looked into all aspects of the English game and only recommended this for Leeds United... The FA are responsible for the running and governance of English football, but they have not acted on advice from a Government Committee??? So to move on we first need some questions answering around Elland Road for the good of all football. Why does Ken Bates claim to have saved Leeds United when did not know who owned the club? How can a CEO and Chairman not know who actually benefits from their running of a club? In 2011 Ken Bates bought Leeds United, but from who and for how much? Why did certain Creditors write off so much only if Ken Bates stayed in charge? Who owns the ground & if it is a trust is it covered by rules for REITs? Now it is not up to you or me to say if anything illegal occurred, that would be for the Police and HMRC to determine.. I just think we should aim our calls at The FA to do what it has been recommended to do by the parliament......
i think you missed my point. IF everything is legal and ethical and everything in the way that it was done was for the good of either leeds united or the fans or the league or whatever, will fans still think he is a bad owner or is this just a bullshit side story of an excuse to try and remove the leeds owner is my question
The lack of transparency is the issue... Ken Bates inspires a trench mentality and I like it when its Leeds against the rest like the good old days.... The problem at the moment is that we don't know what trench Ken is in? A full invetigation into the ownership question can only help clear this up... If Ken decides to leave before this investiagtion then thats his choice, I personally would like to know who owned us then and who owns the ground now? I am sure that the grass is not always greener and I don't want to be spending wildly like Cardiff, Boro or Leicester have. At the moment I imagine the club is a lot safer in the long term than West Ham and co, but are we? Ken Bates is 80 years old and will not be in charge in 10 years , don't we have a right to know what happened and what will happen moving forwards.... PS If it turns out he did save us then we can name the new Motel after him
Firstly it will stop alot of the frustrations we as fans are experiencing at the moment!!! All we want is to know where this great club is heading and who will be providing what? We know Bates won't be around forever but I personally want to know what state the club is left in - We are told that the club is now virtually debt free but there has been no action is the transfer market. Devils advocate here but perhaps Bates thinks we can be promoted with in the next season or 2 without spending silly money (Leicester) and all monies we have raised in the last couple of seasons (Delph, Kasper, etc) have been set aside to make sure we have as much financial clout as we can when back in the Premiership... I know it sounds UNrealistic and felt wrong writing it but its a thought. As Nash alluded too its fine having a everyone hates us attitude but the whole club from Chairman/Board to the tea lady needs to be on the same hymn sheet. Thats the biggest problem no-one trust Bates and co at the moment and he needs to stop treating us with contempt when we pay the bills.
How old are you, 12? The lack of transparency was because Bates owned it illegally. He managed to cover it up with offshore trust funds and shrouding the entire thing but if you look at his business history it's standard practice for him. It's been done to death that he's a crook and he's left every single business he's ever been in control of in a financial mess. He probably won't be found to have done anything illegal unfortunately - but it sure as hell won't be because he hasn't done anything illegal, it'll be because the bent old twat is so good at hiding it.
Bates out & Happ'iness In Not Happ'iness out & Bates in (As happened when Ken called SG in for pre season transfer funds meeting....) [video=youtube;ij08lEdA8hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ij08lEdA8hs[/video] A song from one old tax dodger to another !!!!
new ablutions in his high class boxes can be Bates` bogs? ****e on him every time as he`s shafted us?no forget that,don`t pay rip-off prices,don`t go until he does
im sorry, do you have some evidence that everyone else in the country including the FA doesnt??? im not being funny, dont be blinded by your massive hatred for bates, actually look at the cold hard facts of what the club is doing and the steady progress of not only the finances but the club over the past few years and you will see there is nothing wrong with the current situtation with the club. There are frustrations surrounding the club given the lack of spending recently but thats no reason to protest, we've still been bringing players in as well. AS i've said before and will probably say it again some people need to be in a constant state of drama, nothing can ever be just OK with anything
