Am absolutely fed up with some Referees attitude. Some Referees want to be centre stage it appears and are more concerned with how they look than actually administering the Law. For me Howard Webb is such a Ref. Some of the time wasting today was appalling and he did nothing except have a chat with Holt. I suggest a yellow would immediately stamp that out. Some of the tackles inflicted on our players were worthy of bookings yet all he was interested in was holding his whistle up and pointing at it for an interminanle length of time at free kicks. He for me got the big decisions wrong ( again ) and should have learned from his debacle at the World Cup! I hope we do not have him inflicted on us again.
Take nothing from Norwich they deserved the win but Webb was poor in as much he was continually waving play to start but failed to penalise when the players took no notice.He does appear to play to the camera though
I thought he wasnt the best but ive seen alot worse remember the joke ref's we had in the ccc especially in siusas season !!
Poor decision on the disallowed goal, thought it was a legitimate goal. Must say though while watching on line I was muted celebration as was waiting to see if Webb would give it.
I agree the ref thought he was a rock star today but i dont agree that he ****ed up on purpose, i beleive he gave the best decision at the time with what he saw. Its very frustrating but these guys are only human and the game is moving way to fast for some of these guys to keep up!! its not really their fault . We should never have been in that position anyway, that loss is firmly down to players attitude in the first 45mins, something that we tend to suffer from every time we get a good result somewhere, i think its called "beleiveing your own hype" The ref could have been alot worse if he wanted to, we were lucky ash didnt get a straight red for rugby tackling holt after being out paced by him!! we were also lucky with a few tackles that chico made, one head high once again, it was on holt so he is forgiven for that one...
He's paid to get the decisions right. I was sat behind the goal, he was a damn sight closer than me yet I knew it was a good goal and he didn't. Not one Norwich player complained and the defenders just like me thought it was a goal too.
I agree with all of that Dilli but the fact remains he saw it different and didnt give it, same as he didnt give ash a red card and he didnt give chico a yellow card for a high boot, we all like to talk about one thing but not the other. Cant have it both ways can we? Very frustrating to not have the goal given but we have had our fair share of 50/50 s this season, if the players had turned up at 3pm instead of 4pm then it wouldnt have mattered! Lets not get all bitter about ref's, ive found them to be mostly decent to the Swans since we came up got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes
Not forgetting of course that Liverpool also had a goal disallowed with us, the refs have a very difficult job, they get in the neck every time. I like to think that it all works itself out over time. But I do think we could have salvaged a point out of this, not that i'm taking anything from Norwich
Just watched MOTD and they showed it should have stood. World Cup Final ref my arse FFS sits quite close to me in the ground and would have seen the same thing. I was thinking of doing a thread like this too but unfortunately I'm too pissed tonight.
Yes, but it was offside. Close but the linesman got it right - Liverpool were just deflecting because it was close.
Very true - awful in first half. Would prob have taken off Graham for Augustein even 20mins in because you could see a second and third coming. Strange choice of players for the start - really would have started with Augustein to give us a bit more muscle. Ben Davies and Tremmel had a poor time wiht the goals too. Never mind, hopefully lesson learned and move on. We really can't take anyone for granted in this league - plus, they should have known that we have trouble with Norwich from last year. P.S. Grant Holt really shouldn't be playing for a club run by a chef - he was huffin' and puffin' in the first ten minutes.
The Ref can only give it as he sees it and they are all human so will always get some decisions wrong. They dont have the luxury of slow motion replays and multiple camera angles either.
Bad call on the disallowed call. When the keeper comes for the ball they have no devine right in the rules to be able to get it, or avoid contact, and Michu played the ball with his back turned to the keeper and there was barely any contact. Michu made a clean header. All refs over extend protection to the keepers that isn't in the rules. Trevor Ford would laugh at this situation.
Totally agree. After he had been fairly beaten to the ball, Bunn dropped to the floor as though he had been shot. Keepers today are over protected and some get quite indignant if they are even challenged in the air for a ball. When they lose it, fairly, they flop all over the place trying to con the referee that they have been fouled. To me this is a form of simulation as bad as a dive and should be punished the same way.
Even that would be better than NEVER penalising them. I can't think of an occasion when any keeper has been penalised for simulation, yet some of them are the worst offenders. Bunn was a classic example.
Totally agree, I just think that there are currently no workable rules for punishing simulation. Some cultures allow it and even encourage it (have you seen Brazilian league for example). Some players get a card, most don't. Refs don't fancythe headache of stopping simulation to my mind. Bunn did milk it though.
