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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by MackemsRule, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Got to give it a try. <ok>

    Right then, lot's of differing opinions on our present squad.
    Who need to go and who needs to stay.

    I have stayed out of the Bramble discussions as there's nothing I can say about it until he is either banged up or cleared.
    Of course he had to be suspended.
    I did think he looked over weight and unfit before this happened mind.
    No matter what the outcome one for the door for me.

    Richardson, made myself plain on him on numerous occassions.
    Sooner he is out the door the better for me.

    Turner, never rated him and even when fit he moves like a snail on crutches.
    Out!

    Sessegnon, getting a lot of unwarranted stick imho lately.
    Played behind a front two I think he could be Sunderlands ace in the hole.
    In!

    Bendtner, technically not ours, but I think with the right set up the guy could be solid for us.
    In!

    Wickham, strange one this, I haven't seen anything in the short time he has been here that warranted the £8 mill spent on him. Hopefully it will be money well spent. I do think the money could have been used better elsewhere.
    Undecided!
     
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  2. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Agree totally, save only to say that Wickham looked confident enough at Norwich to start. If he was going to wobble in the face of stick it would have been there and he didn't.
     
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  3. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    Deffo Outs:-

    Larsson - slower than Turner
    Sessegnon - overrated and I will never forget his shocking performance on Monday
    Bramble - should have kept Ferdy


    Keep:-

    Gordon - still our best keeper. Hope he is fit soon.
    Catts - when he his fully fit
    Ricco - very versatile (But should only fill LB when there is no one else)

    Thats my starter for 10.

    Bart
     
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  4. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    Bramble, if completely exonerated from everything, keep, if not, sack

    Richardson, not a LB but makes some great overlapping runs, if the LW could cover him when he does this, he would be better imho, still dont like him there though, but not his fault. keep though as we dont have anyone else realy.

    Turner, Been out for that long, cant remember, lets see what he is like when he comes back and is in the team for a run of games, then i will get back to you.

    Sess, looks frustrated, needs to be utilised properly, then we may see the best out of him, but he needs to find his shooting boots and soon.

    Bendtner, too early yet, huge confidence but yet to see it on the pitch, hopefully he will get a couple of goals on Saturday and he may take off.

    Whickam, Young lad, dont think there is a lot of trust in him yet, give him a chance though and he may surprise us, but its between him and Ji and Ji looks better at this moment in time.
     
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  5. Nads

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    Gotta agree, selling Anton already looks a catastrophic **** up.

    Harsh on Sess, but your entitled to your view, and he really was armpit **** on Monday.
     
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  6. hettonist

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    MR-A historic moment haha! Richardson debated to death but think he is useful to cover for injuries at times and generally seems to get on with it without being billy big time about it
    Sess is the best player at the club IMO and will come good once he is given more time and playing in a more confident team who aren't **** scared to have a proper go
    Whickam will be canny I reckon and improve with time but can't be expected to work miracles for us this season
    Larsson will be solid and is the first freekick specialist we have had for about ten years worthy of the name. Too many in the long tradition of Reuben Agboola for my liking although the memory of his efforts is making me smile!
    Bramble will wait and see what happens but feel he is close to going
    Bendter will be essential for us I reckon with the lack of experience we have up front. Really liked his control and touches on Monday, showed consistent technique I didn't know he had
    Gardners not done much but early days I suppose
    Can see Gordon leaving soon due to contract shenanigans unfortunately, reckon he will be a loss but don't think the club should pander too much as I've never got a feeling of great loyalty or care for SAFC from him, he may just be more honest than most like so fair dos!
    In the main, lots of new players and a bit early to be making decisions on them. The obvious deadwood who are nowhere near the squad, if they get a chance elsewhere good luck to them
     
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  7. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    Interesting I agree with most of this apart from Sess who I think at RW would be a class act.

    Richardson should be played a LW, we don't have a LW and its his natural position.

    My starting 11 if fit would be:

    Gordon
    Bardo Brown Turner Oshea
    Sess Catts Gardener Richardson
    Bendtner Wickham

    What has happened to Killgallon, a natural LB by all accounts, we could do with seeing what he could do especially with Bramble as good as gone.
     
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  8. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Deliberately didn't mention Anton in case anyone thought this was just another go at Bruce.
    His main failing for me was not knowing when to row Z the ball. Rio had the same problem for a long time too.

    Got to agree about Gordon being needed back as soon as, Ming doesn't instil any confidence in me on any level. (nor our defenders by the looks of it too.)
     
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  9. parkersafc

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    I wouldn't get rid of any 'first teamers' we can't afford to we need to keep this bunch together. Another mass overhaul and we are just going to continue to stand still.

    Get Noz, killgallin and angeleri off the wage bill and do our best to bring In a left back left winger and a striker.
    The only question mark over a first team player is Gordon due to his contract situation and injury.
     
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  10. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    Like that team Vegas - provided Sess puts a shift in.

    Bart
     
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  11. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    Titus out whatever the outcome because, to me, he is gulity of allowing himself to get in a situation that drags the club throgh the mud, not for the first time.

    Richardson I would keep because he is so versitile.

    One of the keepers will go because we have one to many, if Gordon comes back like I was I would keep him.

    Sess and Larsson are, IMO, our short term future but we need Larsson on the right and Sess on the left.

    Bendy, Wickham and Ji its to early to say.
     
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  12. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Gotta agree on Titus Syd.

    I do believe in innocent till proven guilty, i also believe in upholding the reputation of the club.

    At the very least the lad has been naive and stupid (3 times), at worst, he's done summat unforgiveable.
     
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  13. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    See this is why I ****ing love football, we all see players in different light's.

    People putting Turner in our first team amazes me, they must have seen something completely different to what I saw when he was supposed to be fit. :p
     
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  14. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    I like Turner, he's a great tackler, good in the air, commited and brave.

    As a defender i like him, as a FOOTBALLER he is 'inadequate'.

    IF he can get fit, he'll do well alongside super Wes.
     
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  15. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Its along side Brown I would like to see BB, think it could be the making of him.
     
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  16. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    I agree Syd, Tina as the no nonsense bullet taker (not that Wes shirks it mind), leaving Wes to tidy up and play out of the back 4.

    Wes was poor by his standards on Monday, but he has stunned me with his quality.
     
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  17. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Thinking back wasn't it his attacking heading ability that got some fans excited when it was mentioned we were interested.?
    Sorry but his defending hasn't been up to scratch for me, too many times left standing.
     
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  18. Wherewereyou

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    But he's a big ****er, ain't he, and they're often left standing. But it's good to have a big ****er around.
     
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  19. Davie 1973

    Davie 1973 Well-Known Member

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    I feel for Ricco , it's not his fault he's been played in the wrong position and gets lots of stick for not being any good there.
     
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  20. Wherewereyou

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    I agree with you, mate, but let's wait for MR to appear!!!
     
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