Pre - Season Friendlies..

Same here Wiz !
Despite the obvious disappointment of such a low key appointment in Dean Holden, I haven't looked forward to a season as much for a few years. Maybe its the unusual circumstances and going slightly stir crazy, but bring it on !
And if it all goes sensationally wrong really quickly, then the heat will be on Ashton and co

 

Imo it was wrong to appoint Junior and I feel the same about Holden.
The reasons given 4 years ago are the same now.
'Outstanding candidate' etc etc

What utter bulls**t.
And if the 2 so called world class England coaches were any good they'd have found and stayed in a managers job before now.

Glad Wiz that you and Angelic are excited about the new season.
Not for me.
It might be that no fans will be watching anytime soon.
It's more likely that anything that has Ashton's fingerprints on, is poisonous.

 

Lucky you, I’m not looking forward to this season at all. My hope is they hit the ground running and stir my enthusiasm, but I dread the opposite will happen . The bad taste of the whole process since LJ left and Ashton’s b/s and taking the fans for mugs is difficult to shake.

 

I was disappointed with Holdens appointment but I’ve come round to it now. What annoyed me was the length of time it took.
Wasn’t looking forward to Hughton because the last time I got a manager I wanted it turned out to be my biggest disappointment going and I was losing the will to go.
The way Dean speaks sounds like a Cotterill way of playing and attacking football.
If it works great but the last thing I want to hear is that arrogant prick Ashton saying he told us so.

 

considering we had 5 games to play in short order only a lunatic would expect a new head coach to be appointed before the last game!.... so process in fairness would have started around the day after, although applications were coming in daily. That wonderful thing hindsight was showing the depth the press /media and bookies were sinking to sell copy or rob the punter … HUGHTON WAS NEVER IN THE PICTURE …….
so ROD, can you explain [ to help us that thought it was pretty reasonable if not a bit quicker than expected] the reasons/ why you believe the process "took to long"..

 

Sometimes to comment [ as you say have to be careful! especially should you be in the same small boat ] is a difficult path. When you read comments they are usually of a personal perspective... off the cuff … didn't think it through or influenced by other sources stronger than your belief's.... or simply based on facts that you are not privy to see the source of … [ been in same room a fly on the wall! ]
Quite often initial thoughts are surpassed when other /later information becomes available.. the trick here is digest that info, see if it makes sense/ fits in with the wider picture and adjust the thought processes accordingly.
You publish a lot of stuff on here, to which I am sure a lot of us on our board are extremely grateful.. not least me. Although[ not your fault ] a lot of it is typical rumours to bolster attention, a lot is factual. the biggest con [ 2020 so far ]seems to have been a 2 pronged attack by media and bookies regarding CH! and there is still people [ on here /elsewhere ] that believe he was nailed on as next coach... and what did MA say ???? " was never part of our plans"
As I have done with ROD a few times could you explain what it is you do not trust in MA … why you think JL is overwhelmed by MA … and in the light of the transcript of the 20man interview you believe SL is a liar? and good you can appreciate a fibber has done so much for Bristol sport in general and upgraded a third grade outfit/hq into a grade 2+ ...

 

Because the club stated they wanted the new head coach in charge before the season had ended. Whether or not what you think 5 weeks to get to the decision of someone already in the club is a long time.
You don’t know that Hughton was not in the picture, you are speculating as per usual.
However I suggest you take a look at the way you wrote that asking me to explain like I was a little child being told by a teacher or parent, which correct me if I’m wrong you are not either.

 

A pretty balanced post , I agree with most of what you said, personally the way Ashton in particular and SL to a lesser extent has treated us has left a bad taste in my mouth and I’ve lost interest for the time being .

The annoying thing for me is I think we were in the best position that we’ve been in for years to attract a decent manager. Obviously I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes , but from the outside it appears it’s the way we are set up that puts anyone with a half decent reputation joining us , LJ and now DH cant possible be the best candidates to have applied so there must be a reason they’re the ones we appointed

 

I don't like this Ashton bloke, he seems to control the team from the shadows, and is impervious from any sort of blame.

 

And can I just say I'm impressed with myself for using the word impervious, as Iv'e had about 7 pints of lager

 

I’m a less strongly worded version of this. I too was underwhelmed by LJs appointment, but tried very hard to believe - especially late 2017 when things seemed to be going so well.....
This new appointment also underwhelms me - but, like with LJ, I wish him and his team the very best of luck.
I’d like nothing more than if I had to say ‘I was wrong and you were right’ to MA and the board as we take our place in the Premier League. I’d be the first to post here.

 

My feelings exactly.
If they'd only come out with the truth we'd all move on.
Truth and Ashton will never sit well together.

 

Exactly, if they said something like , we are set up to sell our best players at a profit to reinvest , and to do the same again and again, we would like to get promotion but it’s not our main goal . Our recent head coaches have been appointed with this in mind . They are the best available that applied and were prepared to agree to our philosophy.

At least they would be being truthful. To try and achieve promotion with this philosophy increasingly seems almost impossible.

We were in a position this time imo to release the shackles a bit & try our best to employ a head coach that could make our top priority promotion but once again we’ve gone for the safe option. It just feels like an opportunity missed to me and I’m annoyed and frustrated.

To rub salt into the wound MA then tried to tell us DH was the best man who applied . No disrespect to DH , but if he was the best man that applied the calibre of applicant was piss poor and I for one don’t buy that.

 

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here is my speculation ….

GT: So Chris Hughton, he was the name that kept coming around during my programmes, during the restart, what happened with Chris Hughton.

MA: Geoff look, I'm not going to talk about individuals.

GT: I think you should.

MA: I would not do that.

GT: You've got tens of thousands of your fans listening right now and I think they deserve to know what happened with Chris because that was the kind of name they expected.

MA: His and other names were heavily linked in the press, not by the football club. There were other names that were linked and we went through a process where a number of those names were interviewed, and through that process it was very clear that Dean Holden again was the right person for this football club.

Thankyou for replying in the first instance, and there is nothing to suggest in the request you are a child, sometimes peeps feel a need for sarcasm and resort to comments like your last throwaway 9 words …. I have been a very good parent and although not in schools have also had periods of transferring knowledge to a great number of individuals … thus teaching.!
actually as I lean back in my chair up on the wall is 4 certificates to do with commendations on having "educated peeps to a degree which led to their success passing exams"

 

Hey, I would never call anyone a liar …. and you are correct everyone is entitled to an opinion … when I give mine I endeavour to be careful what I say as I do not wish to darken anyones character without them having the right to reply … or without definitive first hand proof ….. I rarely go on hearsay, or follow the herd …..