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Post Mortem

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Canary Rob, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Right, I'm sure we all just want to move on from yesterday, so I thought I'd just write out my full impression for a bit of closure. Let me know your thoughts.

    I would identify our midfield as being the biggest problem yesterday. Johnson's passing was woeful at times (thoughts did at least battle energetically) I thought Surman was anonymous to the point that he exposed Tierney horribly, Pilkington was simply shocking and I really don't think he was match fit- shouldn't have been played. Snodgrass was similarly quiet, I suspect he just needs to warm up, but I'm not convinced by him in that role behind the striker- it is obvious his best position is wing. Of the substitutes, Bennett looked quite lively, though some of his crosses were awful- at least he helped cover back and created some chances. Hoolahan wasn't on long enough to impact, but I thought he looked equally lively though liable to get caught in possession as ever. Howson was the only shining light, though even he didn't have a great game- at least he can retain the ball and create space. I look forward to Fox being fit to give us a bit of control and I really hope Butterfield will be able to play with Howson in the centre. If we are going to play one behind the striker, for me it has to be Hoolahan or Bennett.

    Obviously, the more we conceded, the deeper the midfield sat in order to create the impression of helping defend, but rather than this being organised, everyone seemed to sit deep, leaving us with no chance to attack, and then when we attacked, everyone surged forward leaving us exposed again.

    The impact the midfield had on the defence was what caused the problems. Lacking in sufficient cover, the fullbacks got caught out time and again. It has to be said that Tierney had an awful game too, so not entirely the midfield's fault, and it's not surprise that we have Garrido signed because I don't think Tierney was very good in pre-season either. I think we all know he's good enough, but the long ankle injury has really set him back a way and he may need six months or more to get back to speed. He was at fault for the first goal, and playing Rodallega onside for the pen (though it was the awful clearance that caused the problem)- too often he gave the winger space. I actually thought both R Bennett and Turner looked very good early on, but unfortunately Turner's head clearly went down and he became very despondent, which made matters worse- the big deflection was the nail in his defensive coffin (he should have closed down) and then it was a silly tackle on Rodallega who I thought Tierney had covered. If Turner plays like he did in the first half for the rest of the season, the defence will be strong I think. Martin did well- it's not his fault he's a bit slow, he otherwise looked solid, though maybe this was in comparison to others!

    Up front does not need discussing. We all know Holt does not perform alone up there. He kept getting caught due to lack of support and he ended up looking sluggish. I actually thought he did have a few moments of great work- a neat flick on to Surman for example, but otherwise starved of opportunity and looking like he suffered in the heat, it wasn't his best game. I thought Morison was good when he came on- got the crowd going with some serious effort, but unfortunately the delivery into the box for him never gave him enough space. Generally I was encouraged by his performance and the support the fans gave him.

    As for Ruddy, five goals is a horror show, but it really wasn't his fault. He could have done more for the first goal (incidentally he actually did enough to change the ball's direction round the post, but the spin on the ball must have caught the turf luckily because it then spun inside), but otherwise he couldn't have done much. First goal was Tierney's fault, second goal was poor corner defending, third goal was a huge deflection which happen when your luck's out, fourth goal was the first major error of the centre-halves and Martin, with a good finish and the last was a penalty.

    Regarding the manager, I'm not sure all the blame can be placed at his door. The players really didn't give him much. However, I would say that it was obvious to me last season that the only defender that contained Holt completely was Hangeland- this happened. A day for Jackson? Morison or Vaughan at least would be better. 4-5-1 is the sensible choice away from home, so Hughton was making sense, but a few injuries to Fox and Hoolahan meant that our best 4-5-1 team wasn't put out. Ultimately, I couldn't help feeling Hughton selected players on a safety first basis- i.e. Those players who were strong last season, rather than thinking about this exact match and formation. hence, Holt was played because he is a "talisman", Surman because he scores and Pilkington because he was fantastic at times, forgetting that these three individually have off days and together squeeze our shape and don't actually work as a unit. Hughton must also be relieved to have Garrido waiting. I think the reason for Hughton's slightly odd press chat afterwards was genuine panic at a terrible debut. Ive seen enough of him to know he won't make the mistakes in selection he did today. I expect to see a bit more of E Bennett in particular.

    This should all take nothing away from the fact that we came up against a fantastic performance yesterday, to all the Fulham bashers. It was just our luck that Ruiz decided to perform to his potential- next week he'll probably be awful. Dembele and Diarra were also magnificent as a unit, taking full advantage of our sluggish midfield. Added with a player debut (Petric) where he played out of his skin and it's clear that we were always going to lose, it was just a question of how badly.

    I think we just have to all shrug here and accept that the opposition were fantastic. Every team takes a heavy defeat, it's unfortunate that it happened to Hughton's in his first match, but I think better now than five matches from the end of the season when we're sat in seventeenth... It's not the end of the world because the room for improvement is so obvious, four of the goals were entirely avoidable, the fullback problem is being dealt with, etc. We wont always come up against a team working so smoothly and our players will click better. I see the performance yesterday as precisely on a par with Sunderland away last year. Let's also not forget that we weren't e only team to start badly.

    I, for one, am really looking forward to QPR at home to see how our entire team and manager bounce back. And how QPR react.
     
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  2. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    No comments?

    Is my assessment really that bad?!

    <laugh>
     
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  3. Bidley

    Bidley Well-Known Member

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    Fulham fan in peace.

    I appreciate the compliments to our team. It was as much about us playing well as it was about you guys not turning up, something which has escaped most 'experts'. It says a lot when the manager of the losing side is more complimentary of the opposition than the MOTD team!

    I thought Ruddy was unlucky, like you say he did enough for Duff's goal but it had enough spin to see it in. On another day that would've been an important save. The second goal you were unlucky not to clear off the line, and after that your heads went down.
     
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  4. stilljaroldcanary

    stilljaroldcanary Well-Known Member

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    Good read! Can't comment was not there :)
     
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  5. JM Fan

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    I've resisted commenting on any of the threads about yesterday, as I was totally disgusted by our totally inept display - I haven't seen the players' ratings, but can't imagine that any of them would be that high. Agreed - Holty is not the player to use if CH is 'playing one up front' and he was trying to survive on scraps, rather than good balls in to the box etc.

    I watched most of the match and I couldn't believe how frail our defence was - let's just hope we get Whattaker back soon and that the midfield starts to play as a unit, rather than as a group of individuals. We almost seemed frightened of the ball at times.

    I live in hope that we'll ALL get behind the team next Saturday, but as usual, I expect that there will be the usual 'boo-boys' who will be on the players backs, especially if we go 1-0 down!!!!
     
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  6. ChrisAcle08

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    Well said. It looked like a team of strangers at times, which for a team that has prided itself on team spirit for the last three years was hard to watch.

    A rousing "On the Ball City" and plenty of encouragment will see us on our way, however so many strange scenarios come to mind. How will either team and its supporters react to going a goal behind? Will they both try to keep it tight after such inept defensive showings and try to nick a goal in the second half? Would love to see us going for the juggula from the off. If we got an early goal everybody would settle down and hopefully play without the shadow of fear that plagued us yesterday.

    My last thoughts on yesterday's performance is that while nobody likes losing, if there is fight and a feeling that we gave everything for the cause then nobody minds. FFS we clapped the lads off the pitch after getting a 6-1 reverse against Man City last season because we all knew just how much effort they put into the game - the same couldn't be said for yesterday's showing!
     
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  7. Canary f1

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    I don't think we should worry too much. The 1st day of a season often churns out some odd results. We know we are better than this. Keep calm and have a beer.
     
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  8. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Rob, I am moving on and have said all I want to say about the performance on other threads (for now) :grin:

    Put simply, a day to forget <ok>
     
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