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Possession Doesn´t Always Mean Goals

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by royalbarclayfan, Oct 26, 2014.

  1. royalbarclayfan

    royalbarclayfan Well-Known Member

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    A paradox, in our last five league games
    Where wins have been right at a low,
    Sky-high possession both home and away
    Yet we´ve only two goals to show

    Yesterday fifty-eight percent, away
    Astonishingly high, you know,
    And in the four games previous to that
    We topped sixty percent each show

    Looking back further to Brentford and Town
    And even to Cardiff as well,
    Fifty-one percent was the highest there
    With eight goals and three wins to tell

    Now I don´t know whether it means a jot
    But logically it seems wrong,
    So much contact with the ball, yet so few
    Good chances and goals when on song

    Naturally one does need the ball to score
    But such dominance in our games,
    Without producing a good end result
    Gives one to think, naming no names

    Unlucky, yes we have been that, ´tis true
    But some say we make that ourselves,
    Adams, has to his credit, tried and changed
    Along with his hard working elves

    But as yet, not very much has improved
    In making the other net bulge,
    And the longer it goes it´s a concern
    That is no secret to divulge

    Keeping possession is all very well
    But then one must locate a hole,
    If one can´t, then hitting teams on the break
    Is still the best way to a goal

    So I would welcome a few games to come
    Where possession was held at bay,
    And just for once we could go steal the points
    With one decisive breakaway. OTBC
     
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  2. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    Scoring an early goal would make teams attack more, leaving us chances to attack their less packed defence. The fact that only 18% of our goals have been scored in the first half is a very worrying stat.
     
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  3. royalbarclayfan

    royalbarclayfan Well-Known Member

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    Certainly seems to be becoming a bit of a psychological block, eadie, but then again, we weren´t actually doing it either, when we were knocking in plenty of goals.
     
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  4. JM Fan

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    I think when Villa beat Liverpool early in the season, Villa had less than 40% possession, but nicked a 1-0 win!!!!
     
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  5. royalbarclayfan

    royalbarclayfan Well-Known Member

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    JR - wouldn´t that be lovely just for once, especially if it was away at ´Boro or Forest, or preferably both <laugh>
     
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  6. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    When Charlton beat us they had 39% possession according to the BBC.
     
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    Says it all really - QPR had 35% possession last night and win 2-0.

    Note - Villa have now gone 8 hours without a goal!!!!
     
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  8. Canary Rob

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    All since Lambert signed a new contract...
     
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  9. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Villa are ****ed, they look absolutely ****, clueless and one of the worst premiership teams I've ever seen. They had pretty much a full strength side out as well now Benteke is back and still they were hopeless. Three years Lambert has been 'building' his squad and from what I can see he's not done a very good job of it. Perhaps he did hit his ceiling with us after all. Nothing he's done since leaving has suggested he's going to be a roaring success at that level, thanks for the memories <ok>
     
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  10. royalbarclayfan

    royalbarclayfan Well-Known Member

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    Have to admit Munky, I agree, I watched most of that game last night, and they even managed to make QPR look reasonably presentable. Was really watching to see how Fer did, and again he had a fairly ´in out´ sort of game, didn´t do an awful lot wrong, but didn´t do an awful lot to impress either.
     
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  11. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Lambert's problem is that he is simply trying to be something he's not.

    The style is not what brought us success. I don't understand why he's changed it. Get rid of the suit, shirt and tie - revert to those tracksuit bottoms and that horrible polo-shirt/sweatshirt combo that he used to have. That's his style.
     
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  12. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Glad to see that you boys don't harbour any bitterness towards your most successful manager! <laugh>
     
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  13. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    what's Mike Walker got to do with this thread? <confused>
     
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  14. THURNBY YELLOW

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    I had a fairly long bedate with RobbieBB on this very topic last year (what happened to him?) and it was one of his 'facts' that teams with greater possession win more often and I argued that point with him. My basis was, it depends where you have your possession and generally higher numbers mean a lot of passing around (yes passing!) amongst the back four whereas the lower percentages tend to be break aways and more thrusting attacks which mean ultimately either scoring or giving the ball away quicker. Bit like England, whereas Spain and Arsenal would be the latter. It is a moot point!
     
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  15. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I think you'll find that Mike Walker was your luckiest manager inheriting the team that Dave Stringer built! <ok>
     
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  16. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    RobbieBB - I think he stopped posting as he got sick of people having a go, but I could be wrong


    JWM - that is a discussion for a different thread, and a moot point IMO. For example, it's not what you've got, it's how you use it (as "they" apparently say...)
     
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  17. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Fair Play but it can be argued with some justification that Mike Walker benefited hugely from what Dave Stringer had put in place! You must also consider that he got sacked by Everton after only a few months (if memory serves) and he didn't do as well during his second spell with you guys.
     
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  18. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree with you on that at all, but as I say it's a moot point because your original (albeit tongue-in-cheek) comment was our most "successful" manager, with the point being as you rightly allude to that there is a funny relationship between success, luck and talent.
     
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  19. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    Just to show the move from small club to big club isn't as easy as some make out!
     
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  20. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Are you trying to say that Norwich are smaller than Everton?

    How very dare you!
     
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