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  1. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    So we are in desperate need of at least 2 decent CB's and low and behold Reading sign Kaspars Gorkks from QPR while we pull out all the stops to sign Sonko, who couldn't hold a candle to Gorkks.
    Why the **** didn't we go in for him? If we did then why the **** didn't we get him signed up?
    This is poor guys, YET ANOTHER QUALITY CB MISSED OUT ON FFS!!
     
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  2. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    Still, one piece of good news is that ME was at Portman Road today so maybe there are more signings imminant, either that or he had the old P45 ready for Grant Leadtoanothergoalfortheopposition!!
     
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  3. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I agree Spanish, we have let slip so many decent players and the annoying thing is that they are going to rival clubs while we are signing ****ing has beens! This isn't good enough especially when we keep hearing that the club has money and ambition.

    I would like to see us sign Dean Lewington from the MK Dons. PJ should be looking for players in the lower leagues and not these premier league has beens.
     
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  4. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    How do you know ME was at Portman Road? Did you see him! <laugh>
     
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  5. San Diego

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    We can't sign players who don't want to come to us. We could offer whatever we like but if the player does not want to come here for whatever reason then it will never become a done deal. Why is it people think it's sooo easy just to buy any player you want. It might not be the case of letting players slip through our fingers but more that players don't want to come to us.
     
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  6. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    San Diego the question is then surely if not, why not?

    I think the reason could possibly be that PJ is stuck in this mindset of only going for players over the age of 30 and the club offering peanuts to clubs and players.
     
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  7. San Diego

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    I agree that we should we be taking players from the lower divisions, or promoting our reserves. Our best signing so far bar Stockdale has been young Cressy. Pj looks like someone who is trying to get experience in just so that we can tread water in the league and then gradually scout the gems out. He could just start taking lower league players now and build his team that way instead. I have a feeling many players don't want to relocate to sleepy suffolk and that alone hinders some deals. Like I said, it's all well and good saying we should buy this player or that player or we have money to spend so spend it but at the end of the day if that player has no interest in playing for us do we want him anyway.
     
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  8. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Out of nine signings so far this summer we have only spent cash on two of those deals!

    I think that tells us all we need to know!
     
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  9. San Diego

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    What does it tell us Johnny?
    That nobody wants to play for PJ?
    That nobody wants to play for a club that hasn't been challenging in recent times?
    That we don't make the right offer or push the boat out to seal deals ahead of our competitors?
    That Clegg/ME suck at negotiations?
    That we pick the wrong targets and should be looking at lower league who want to step up rather than prem who don't want to step down?
    That nobody wants to live in Suffolk. I mean we have no decent motorway leading out of the area but if there are plans to build one the locals get all up in arms and say you'll spoil the countryside building one.
    Which do you think it is?
     
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  10. King_of_Portman_Rd

    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member
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    I seem to Remember young Connor making an absolute fool of Gorkks a couple of years ago so lets not kid ourselves, he is not an absolute worldy, albeit far superior to anything we have to offer. Maybe we did enquire about the guy or even put in an offer, like has been said before sometimes players just don't want to go to certain clubs. Looking back at the last five or six seasons why on earth would any player join us over Reading?
     
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  11. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    I really am at a loss on here. I can't believe some of the tripe some people spout.

    I don't believe either JWM or Spanish complaining this much about Keane's signings yet look at them they are sh*t.

    Yet Jewells reads as:

    Stockdale: England goalkeeper(quality)-Loan
    Sonko: Not inspiring thats for sure but he was good for reading and we need CB cover-Free
    Cresswell: Looks the best left back IMO since Jamie Clapham - tribunal but I'm sure not more than a million, more like 500k
    Bowyer: Quality player in his time - free
    Andrews: Looks a solid player 2 great goals: Loan
    Chopra: Quality player, one of the best strikers in the division - 1.5million Bargain
    JET: No doubting he has bags and bags of ability, one for the future - 1 million could potentially be a bargain
    Bullard(tbc)- Quality player - free
    Murphy - looked quality in spells but not in others, I'm sure he will be better for us than a couple of years back - Loan
    Ingarmarsson - Injury prone but look a very good CB and a good leader - Free

    When you consider that we signed Leabiter 2 years ago for 2.75 million which is basically what Jewell has spent on all these players I would say he has done very well, compared to what we've been used to over the past 3 seasons so why you have both suddenly pipped up about lack of quality signings I have no Idea. I think Jewell has infact done well to attract the quality he has with how bad a situation we have at the club. Looking at our squad before the summer I couldn't believe players like Chopra, Bowyer, Stockdale and Bullard would even consider playing for us. And lets face it I'm not sure there are many defenders who would want to play in our team after recent results.

    Yes we still need CB's and I very much doubt Sonko is the long term answer to our problem but he is better than we already have(doesnt take alot) but at least we seem to be improving in terms of player positions unlike previous seasons when we spent a shed load of money on average players who were no better than what we already had at the club. RANT OVER
     
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  12. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    The problem is ptc - that he has brought in 8 players but they're a dogshit team!!!! This may change with the new signings but effectively when we sign a few players all it is is another throw of the dice.
     
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  13. Mike_Holmes1990

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    So these other players that we 'missed out on' would have made a better team?

    Yes i hope we eventually start scouring the lower leagues, especially on the back of Cresswell success at the moment, but at the moment we need experience at the back, as weven seen with delany Defence can rely on partnerships, Ivar and Sonko know each other and their experience can help Smith and Ainsley out.

    On paper, this squad should have other teams worried, if its true Bullards signing is immient the leadership to stop heads from dropping will be there. Last week was an awful week and it is easy to criticize Jewell for the signings not being good enough but the reality of our position league wise and to an extent where we are in the country should be remembered and taking into account

    I am very Impressed with the squad Jewell has assembled, i hope sooner rather then later i can say im proud of an impressive team. Its reactions like this that will start the negativity Spiral ending with the sacking of jewell and another new manager responding to yet another call to clear out the deadwood and revamp the team.
     
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  14. Spanish

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    ptc

    Who is complaining about all the above mentioned, not me!! Only moaning about lack of CB's, no i am not sure about Sonko and i would rather have had Gorkks but all the others???? Oh and you forgot Ellington in your list which was rather convenient!! You seem to be rather blinded in your faith of PJ, maybe you should stop all that ****ing over him, you know that they say it makes you go blind!!
    Oh and for the record i think Murphy and Bullard are good signings as long as we bring in at least one more defender, if not then we could still be in trouble.

    Time to move on!!
     
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  15. tractor bhoy

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    Not an inspiring signing but hopefully solid, strong and will add stability.
    Most of our recently signed higher profile players have been poor or not reached the standards expected from then. Leadbitter, Norris, Martin, Edwards, Priskin etc etc have all underwelmed so maybe a calm signing maybe a key
     
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  16. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Spanish I do wonder sometimes if you actually are a retired old man in Spain or if you actually are a insecure teenage boy. For someone who clearly has done well for themselves in being able to retire to Spain your insults lack any maturity or inteligence and smack of an angry insecure teenage boy who isn't going to do very well in life.

    You are right though Spanish on this thread you are only complaining about the lack of decent CB's, I was more getting at JWM's comments and your comments on previous threads. And apologies I did genuinely forget Ellington, who I don't think we can judge yet, hasn't looked good so far but was a free and we have seen what he has done in this division in the past. No manager makes all good signings but unlike clearly Keane who you ****ed over so much which obviously turned you blind(sorry I had to stoop to your level for a moment) he hasn't made any signing which you've thought wtf has he spent all that money on him or why the hell has he sold him or why has he signed this player for.

    I don't have complete faith in Jewell, I think he is a good manager and has done very well for the club since he has been har bar the past couple of atrocious results and has signed some very good players, suprisingly under the circumstances the previous regime had left us in. Going by what he has done so far and what he has acheived in the past I think he deserves alot more time, as he also hasn't had chance to really put his team completely together yet and he's done this over 3 months which is no time to get a settled team out there. I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt atm.

    And Spanish so why is the reason you are making such as fuss about Jewell's signings when Mr Keane was in charge you as per usually verbally insulted people who criitisized his signings or anything about him? Perhaps your being slightly inconsistent(or deluded), just a thought????

    But I'm glad to see there are finally some comments that make some sense in amoungst the garbarge starting to appear, your learning Spanish. Like someone said on a previous thread, which you conveniently didn't reply to(no witty intelligent remark?) some of your comments used to be funny despite being deluded.

    I agree Hamps atm we are a dog**** team. But with the amount of new players we have got coming in and positions still to be filled, all the upheaval is bound to have an adverse effect to start off with. I think as I've thought since the start of the summer we will have an indifferent start and have a late run for the playoffs when Jewell has more of a settled team. The problem is this upheaval was needed as Jewell just needed to get players in some for the short term and some for the long term. He will get there eventually the problem is it is going to take time for things to settle down and us to have a stable team working as a team. Like I've said before this is the biggest transitional season(and we've had many) our club has ever experienced and it needed to be. Patience is the key.
     
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  17. white horse

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    reading all the above threads etc,i am begining to wonder if you all support itfc or just take great pleasure in moaning about them i feel sure there are people at the club who are doing there very best to put the matter to right so come on gang ,lets get together get behind the whole club and we shall return to the good times coybs
     
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