“Lies, damned lies and statistics ….”
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It’s a similar logic to the figures that showed a dramatic reduction in shoplifting during the period most shops were shut down.
Look, I don't know what fancy book-learning you might've done, but where I come from, correlation is causation every day of the week, dammit.
Just copied this from Facebook. Brexit opportunity ideas for Rees Smug.
Dear Jacob
Like you, I always felt the U.K. has suffered from being an EU member state. I'd like to give a summary of the regulations I feel have been the most damaging.
1. Blue Flag beaches
I hated seeing the Blue Flag flying over many of our beaches around the British coast.
The very thought of having to take the family to beauty spots where we could be sure of cleanliness and safety appalled me.
Please, let's stop this. I demand as a British citizen our sovereign right for my kids to be able to swim with turds and have raw sewage pumped into our waterways all year round.
Enough is enough!
2. Consumer protection
When my daughter's flight to the USA was cancelled while we were still in the EU, I was disgusted when we found that there was a regulation that GUARANTEED €600 compensation for this situation.
Tired of this sort of protection, I insist we have little or no protection for any failures of big corporations to meet their obligations to customers.
The same goes for roaming charges, it's our sovereign right to pay extra to use our mobile devices abroad and I demand we take it.
3. Purchases
While in the Single Market I found it a constant irritation that buying something from, say, Munich was pretty much the same as buying something from Manchester.
Imagine my delight when after we left the EU my other daughter bought a guitar online from Germany.
Advertised at £400 including delivery, this would have cost £400 before. Oh how I laughed with the courier when he turned up at my door asking for an extra £120 customs charges to be paid there and then.
"That showed Brussels!" I said to him. A price worth paying for our freedom I thought.
4. Travel
When my wife and I visited Krakow last year we were ecstatic at having to queue for an hour to get our passports checked and stamped at the airport arrivals.
Meanwhile, EU citizens skipped through the e-gates in a matter of seconds and onward to the next stage of their journey.
"You poor fools" I shouted, and the entire queue clapped and cheered.
Let's make sure we don't go back to those days of easy travel. I insist on barriers and difficulty, it's what makes us British superior to the rest of the world.
I hope this helps in your new Brexit Opportunities role.
Yours sincerely
John
Dear Jacob
Like you, I always felt the U.K. has suffered from being an EU member state. I'd like to give a summary of the regulations I feel have been the most damaging.
1. Blue Flag beaches
I hated seeing the Blue Flag flying over many of our beaches around the British coast.
The very thought of having to take the family to beauty spots where we could be sure of cleanliness and safety appalled me.
Please, let's stop this. I demand as a British citizen our sovereign right for my kids to be able to swim with turds and have raw sewage pumped into our waterways all year round.
Enough is enough!
2. Consumer protection
When my daughter's flight to the USA was cancelled while we were still in the EU, I was disgusted when we found that there was a regulation that GUARANTEED €600 compensation for this situation.
Tired of this sort of protection, I insist we have little or no protection for any failures of big corporations to meet their obligations to customers.
The same goes for roaming charges, it's our sovereign right to pay extra to use our mobile devices abroad and I demand we take it.
3. Purchases
While in the Single Market I found it a constant irritation that buying something from, say, Munich was pretty much the same as buying something from Manchester.
Imagine my delight when after we left the EU my other daughter bought a guitar online from Germany.
Advertised at £400 including delivery, this would have cost £400 before. Oh how I laughed with the courier when he turned up at my door asking for an extra £120 customs charges to be paid there and then.
"That showed Brussels!" I said to him. A price worth paying for our freedom I thought.
4. Travel
When my wife and I visited Krakow last year we were ecstatic at having to queue for an hour to get our passports checked and stamped at the airport arrivals.
Meanwhile, EU citizens skipped through the e-gates in a matter of seconds and onward to the next stage of their journey.
"You poor fools" I shouted, and the entire queue clapped and cheered.
Let's make sure we don't go back to those days of easy travel. I insist on barriers and difficulty, it's what makes us British superior to the rest of the world.
I hope this helps in your new Brexit Opportunities role.
Yours sincerely
John
Please send this to James O’Brien, he will love it and will most probably read it out on air!
It's hard enough for the translators without Truss jumping in early because they're having to translate from Russian to English, and then English to Stupid so that She stands a chance of being able to use the info.
I've had more intelligent ****s than Liz Truss.
For those hoping for change. FPTP only benefits cons and lab, it's led to the horrors of the current incumbents.
https://action.electoral-reform.org.uk/page/3782/petition/2
https://action.electoral-reform.org.uk/page/3782/petition/2
FPTP doesn’t even benefit Labour anymore, the party needs to understand that, it’s membership already do.
They are clinging to like the 5% chance it can give them a majority, rather than taking a representative option that would pretty much make them the leading party in a series of coalitions.
Only the Conservatives and SNP benefit from FPTP.
'We're on the edge of a precipice': PM warns of 'very dangerous' situation in Ukraine amid Russia invasion fears.
And I think he is just the man to take us forwards!
And I think he is just the man to take us forwards!
It's about time these islands went back to those they belong to.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...llenges-britains-ownership-of-chagos-islands?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...llenges-britains-ownership-of-chagos-islands?
The thought of him leading us into a war is actually beyond terrifying. That being said I don’t think we will be getting directly involved (hopefully).
Slightly skeptical over whether Russia will go for the whole of Ukraine or whether this will be a pretext to capture Donetsk and Luhansk.
It’s interesting how Putin’s posturing is portrayed in the West, compared to how at least some in Ukraine are seeing it. One of James O’Brien’s callers this morning was a man whose Ukrainian girlfriend is actually flying home to see her mother this week, something O’Brien was understandably shocked on hearing. The man explained that Ukrainians have been living with this sort of bullshit from Russia pretty much since the breakup of the Soviet Union and that the current situation doesn’t really represent a significant escalation of the continual undercurrent of pressure. Putin is more likely to actually invade if he has an excuse, such as a perceived expansionary move by NATO.
I have no idea if that is anything like the true picture, but it was certainly a fascinating alternative to the picture being painted by our media.
I think it was Ben Wallace, minister of defence, who said this morning that “this has the whiff of Munich in the air”.
Either he’s getting in early, if talks and sanctions don’t work, so he can say “Told you so”, or he is clumsily and foolishly trying to push the Russians into taking the next step with his comparing the situation with that of the Nazis
His comments have offended the Ukrainian government who are concerned at some allies using “warlike rhetoric”.
Either he’s getting in early, if talks and sanctions don’t work, so he can say “Told you so”, or he is clumsily and foolishly trying to push the Russians into taking the next step with his comparing the situation with that of the Nazis
His comments have offended the Ukrainian government who are concerned at some allies using “warlike rhetoric”.
He needs to shut the **** up about Russia and Ukraine. If he took this stuff remotely seriously, he wouldn't have sent the appalling Liz Truss to Moscow. But most importantly, our sycophantic media need to stop indulging the preposterous buffoon and his clown-car government. These people are not serious politicians, and they have absolutely nothing to offer in an international crisis.
That's recognised by the Russian and Ukrainian reactions to Johnson's inept incompetent handling of this crisis. Truss's geographic errors are one of many gaffs.
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The other aspect of this which has escaped attention in our media is that while British subjects living in Ukraine are being urged to come home, the invitation does not extend to their non-British family members, for whom no entry visas have been forthcoming.