Off Topic Politics Thread

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I take your points Ides, but I have no issue of remembering the war and having a bank holiday for it evry 5 or 25 years is fine.
What I do find disturbing is the celebration element - Victory in Europe. Remembering the war should be about remembering those who lost their lives, looking at the history to identify the causes, and promising about not letting those mistakes happen again.
Now was the war not started by someone making huge promises of making their country great, surrounded himself by cronies, attacked the media and public service workers, attacked immigrants and made them scapegoats for the relative poverty of working classes.
Have we learnt the lessons from WW2?
 
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The Ides of March said:
VE Day is an excuse to get rid of this year's Labour Day. Just watch it disappear and a New Bank Holiday date will be found that suits the narrative of this Government that commerates a British victory in some glorious war.

PS: 1968I think} is a special year as that was the only post-year war when not a life of a service person was lost in combat..Why? The UK was not engaged in a conflict anywhere. Thank you Harold Wilson!!!
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The Tories always try this stunt, they hate international workers day. Tried to replace it permanently once with Trafalgar day.

I agree with you about VE Day too btw. It’s getting a bit embarrassing now. The war’s over, move on
 
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SaintStu said:
I take your points Ides, but I have no issue of remembering the war and having a bank holiday for it evry 5 or 25 years is fine.
What I do find disturbing is the celebration element - Victory in Europe. Remembering the war should be about remembering those who lost their lives, looking at the history to identify the causes, and promising about not letting those mistakes happen again.
Now was the war not started by someone making huge promises of making their country great, surrounded himself by cronies, attacked the media and public service workers, attacked immigrants and made them scapegoats for the relative poverty of working classes.
Have we learnt the lessons from WW2?
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I said that a little less succinctly the other day and all hell broke loose.
 
SaintStu said:
I take your points Ides, but I have no issue of remembering the war and having a bank holiday for it evry 5 or 25 years is fine.
What I do find disturbing is the celebration element - Victory in Europe. Remembering the war should be about remembering those who lost their lives, looking at the history to identify the causes, and promising about not letting those mistakes happen again.
Now was the war not started by someone making huge promises of making their country great, surrounded himself by cronies, attacked the media and public service workers, attacked immigrants and made them scapegoats for the relative poverty of working classes.
Have we learnt the lessons from WW2?
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Totally agree Stu, our politics hav,nt really advanced further as The Romans! Someone sounds remarkably like sveral of the main "Players" of today.

Oh and "That Someone" was firstly financed by the Bank of England to get him into power.
 
I think that a day of remembrance for the war is fine, but it should be used to teach people about the causes and how we can avoid it. Especially when the world is leaning back towards Governments that use similar strategies to the Nazis back in the 30’s (with less aggression mind).

Noticed that all of the posters out in Waterside say ‘Victory over Europe day’ rather than ‘Victory in Europe’. Now this is 99.9% a simple mistake, but there are definitely a few people out there that believe we were at war with the continent of Europe itself and we need to be careful that people aren’t deceived into thinking that,
 
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The Saints board seems to be about the best informed group of posters on 606. If anyone is interested in the above title please feel free to contribute. I have just watched an item on the BBC about the Motor Trade which I was in for 40 years until 2017. Sales last month down 97% on last year. How do others see industries coming out of this ? Any comments or views welcome. Farked19
 
A great many families have been hit very hard financially by the lock down and it will take quite some time to for them to recover by which time they will have acquired new habits of thrift and self help. Experience changes attitudes. They will also have realised some of the things they thought essential are totally unnecessary for their happiness. I doubt a new car is high on the list of priorities for many people at the moment or in the near future. We are also evolving lost value systems like caring for the needy and the disadvantaged. I can't see the homeless just being kicked out to live back on the streets and if people thought we overvalued the NHS before just let this Government try and tinker with it in the future. There will be public outrage. Don't forget also that we will have to endure the financial consequences of this lock down for some while and this dogma driven government are also going to heap on top of it all the enormous financial problems that will come with Brexit.

The country is on its knee but this lot are going to put it flat on its back with Brexit.
 
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