Off Topic Politics Thread

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VocalMinority said:
For me I'm proud to be English when we do things that I can be proud about, and ashamed when the country does things to be ashamed about. It's not unconditional. But as such what is unconditional is my support and encouragement for the country to do things I would feel proud of, which includes winning the world cup :)
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Spot on...I'm proud of our ingenuity, tolerance (generally), compassion (NHS), humour and massive contribution to science, sport and the arts worldwide, i'm not so proud of our imperialistic past, arms dealing and getting involved in disputes and areas of the World that don't concern us (sometimes), Island mentality and misguided National superiority complex.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
Spot on...I'm proud of our ingenuity, tolerance (generally), compassion (NHS), humour and massive contribution to science, sport and the arts worldwide, i'm not so proud of our imperialistic past, arms dealing and getting involved in disputes and areas of the World that don't concern us (sometimes), Island mentality and misguided National superiority complex.
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I only have the misguided National superiority complex when it comes to football. It’s our game, we should be up there at the top. We’ve caused a lot of this grief ourselves (although the others haven’t helped by being better than us for years), but that’s ok now.... because it’s coming home.

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BBC News is broadcasting about the NHS not having enough money (yadda, yadda) and celebrating 70 years of the NHS (good thing.) They are broadcasting from a London hospital that has its own massive indoor "water garden" that makes Kew look normal. How much did that cost (and maintain.)
 
ImpSaint said:
BBC News is broadcasting about the NHS not having enough money (yadda, yadda) and celebrating 70 years of the NHS (good thing.) They are broadcasting from a London hospital that has its own massive indoor "water garden" that makes Kew look normal. How much did that cost (and maintain.)
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Features like that are fairly common in NHS hospitals and are in my view fully justified. When I started in the NHS in the 1970’s hospitals were dark and grim, not full of light and colour like most of them are nowadays. Patients and visitors do not need to feel oppressed by their surroundings and it would be tragic if the alt-right had their way and took health care back to the dark ages.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
Features like that are fairly common in NHS hospitals and are in my view fully justified. When I started in the NHS in the 1970’s hospitals were dark and grim, not full of light and colour like most of them are nowadays. Patients and visitors do not need to feel oppressed by their surroundings and it would be tragic if the alt-right had their way and took health care back to the dark ages.
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Who are the alt-right?
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Features like that are fairly common in NHS hospitals and are in my view fully justified. When I started in the NHS in the 1970’s hospitals were dark and grim, not full of light and colour like most of them are nowadays. Patients and visitors do not need to feel oppressed by their surroundings and it would be tragic if the alt-right had their way and took health care back to the dark ages.
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I was in a horendously grim 60/70s hospital the other day (The Western General in Edinburgh. There were 2 MND suffers in the waiting corridor.

These patients will also have check-ups at the natty glass prism which is the Anne Rowling Pavillion (funding by JK Rowling) at the Edinburgh General across town. Its like two different worlds, at different times.

I think what Imp is getting at, is less showpieces, and more of an overall standard. There's a vast dichomy of patients experiences in terms of the environments they endure or suffer, to ones which are pleasant/therapeutic.
 
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ImpSaint said:
BBC News is broadcasting about the NHS not having enough money (yadda, yadda) and celebrating 70 years of the NHS (good thing.) They are broadcasting from a London hospital that has its own massive indoor "water garden" that makes Kew look normal. How much did that cost (and maintain.)
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and yet Imps, as you have said, you are quite happy to accept money from the NHS for your children, which doesn't help them, and bank it?
 
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