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Should there be a second Brexit vote

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  2. No

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  3. Dont know

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  4. Its too late

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  5. Ell rulz

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  6. couldnt give a fook

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  7. Will WJ ever see whats hitting him smack in the face

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  1. Poly

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    A recent survey of political scholars placed Trump 44th (and last) when ranking presidents.
    Another had him third worst.
    None of the presidents you mentioned were below Trump in either survey. Please explain that.

    And those surveys were taken BEFORE the January 6th riot/insurrection.

    Sorry but Trump has been the worst every president - by a long way.
     
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    sorry pal you are just re hashing the same anti trump bilge, everything his administration has done is garbage according to you...and as for joe being for everyone well as i said let's wait and see eh.
    you are obviously a democrat supporter and a big one at that,from your posts anyway,no presidency can be as bad as you have made out it's the same here as much as i detested mr blair he wasn't satan for all his term of office so i think you are way to fixated with your hatred for trump per se.
     
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    Trump has been worse than our worst nightmare.

    You say he did "lots of good" for the USA.
    Really? Like what?

    He has divided the nation and polarized opinion
    Undermined the legitimacy of the succeeding administration
    His administration saw the trade gap widen and the national debt soar
    He has de-stabilized the Middle East
    He reneged on treaties signed by the USA
    He besmirched the office of PotUS and shown utter contempt for the Constitution
    He ran the most dysfunctional government in US history
    He appointed ultra conservative judges to federal courts and nominated two ultra conservative justices to the Supreme Court
    He made the USA a laughing stock around the world

    It will take generations to repair the damage he has wrought and restore the image of the USA overseas.

    Some legacy huh ?
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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  5. Poly

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    You mean repeating the truth? Sorry, but that's how debates work.

    If you think Trump's administration did anything good, please detail it.
    Would you include withdrawing from the Paris climate accord or wasting tens of millions on a useless border wall (which he promised we wouldn't have to pay for) ?

    I am a Conservative supporters and voted for Margaret Thatcher in the 1980's. I supported Brexit and Boris Johnson
    I rate Thatcher as the second best British PM of all time - second only to Churchill
    I also rate Blair as the worst PM - I think that although he was full of good intentions, his policies fractured the unity of the UK and his economic policies were calamitous.

    The British Conservative party is broadly similar the the US Democrat party - the share similar economic policies etc

    Trump and his borderline fascist base would brand Boris Johnson's (and Thatcher's) government as left wing "socialist"

    Back when I studied politics and Thatcher and Reagan had just been elected, I thought Republican = Conservative and Democrat = Labour
    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Democrat = Conservative.
     
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    Sad and pathetic, if it wasn't close to a truth.

    Lunatic fringe people like Lindell probably would go to such lengths to hang on to power.
     
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    BRING BACK THATCHER


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    She was a great woman
     
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    correction...........i did not say "lots of good" words in mouth methinks. i said everything his admin has done is garbage according to you, now i don't care who you vote for but to say that is simply ridiculous you ain't crediting the guy with one single thing at all,you are entrenched in your hatred you cannot see past the blinkers.
    you state it will take generations to repair the damage he has wrought and restore the usa's image....that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but do not expect everyone to agree with the points you so vehemently put, the list you put above is subject to your own political persuasion and nothing more.....maga
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    He has divided some idiots bent on Americas domination Undermined the vote stealing thieves bent on succession
    His administration saw the best trade figures the country has ever had and the national start to reduce the deficit
    He has re stabilised the Middle East with 3 peace treaties and was nominated for a Nobel peace prize
    He reneged on treaties signed by the Obama which saw WHO shown up for the corruption within and the China trade deal which only benefited the Biden's
    He brought back trust in the office of PotUS and showed America you can have a president who will do what he promised in the election
    He ran the most efficient government in US history building the wall and destroying the democrats caging of children
    He appointed unbiased judges to federal courts and nominated two forward thinking conservative justices to the Supreme Court who were elected by a majority vote
    He made the USA great again and recognised as the supreme leader amongst the worlds
    He raised the standard of living for BAME citizens more than any other president in history
    He made a massive trade deals with Mexico and Canada
    He made America self sufficient in energy and for the first time ever made America a producer of energy
    He made the biggest ever bust of drug runners in American history due to the wall
    He showed democrat lies up when they put a wall around the capital buildings yet said for years walls don't work
    He showed the democrats the liars they are when they tried to impeach him twice without trail or legal representation before the event
    He showed the world how corrupt the Biden were in Russia Ukraine and China
    He received the biggest turn out for an election in American history including showing what the cheating the Democrats had to do to beat him
    He delivered a cure for the Chinese disease in the fastest ever time for such a pandemic by his forward thinking even overcoming the democrats blocking tactics


    i could go on all day but you have to show how stupid some people are with there hatred for an ex president , never mind she gets the chance again in 2024 when Georgia turns red again because all the avenues for cheating will be blocked
     
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    She was and I see a lot of her spirit in Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

    Maggie wouldn't have taken any s**t from Trump either.

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    You said:

    By all means, please detail this lots of "good".
     
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    The trouble with cretins hitting the report button, to stop others with a point of view, is that you end up with no one to listen to your rants, which is happening right before someone's eyes. Yet they are too thick to realise the facts unless it hit them in the face and has to be explained<doh>:emoticon-0181-fubar
     
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    you appear to be getting rather confused with posters,and frankly i am not surprised....i never mentioned being pleased that trump beat clinton(although i was)
    if you check you will see that was someone else, try cnn they might help you out or any of the other msm that you seem to get a lot of info from.
    if you look at the people this side off the pond that hate trump with the same passion as you they all follow the same line....bercow,corbyn,abbott,lammy,owen jones etc etc when all this trump hating by the media has subsided and they start asking questions from the new boy and he doesn't come up with the answers, then see if the ordinary people (not your political scholars) like what answers they get...


    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><applause><applause><applause>

    seems like someone's having a melt down mate must tell you though this ignore poster button works a treat i can see your talking but can only see replies when you post them<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    Read the first paragraph and you'll recognise a like mind but even he can find 5 good things that Trump did. He's a hater but his mind isn't completely closed.
     
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    Please give evidence of this "vote stealing"
    Because in 60 lawsuits, his and his supporters' lawyers were completely unable to

    Trump's own AG Bill Barr called Trump's election fraud claims "Bullshit"

    A total lie
    Please provide evidence for these trade figures

    Nominated by a far-right Norwegian politician

    Trump has de-stabilized the ME by:
    Recognizing Jerusalem as capital on Israel in 2018
    Reneging on the US-Iran nuclear treaty
    Pulling troops out of Syria (even going so far as to bomb the USA's own bases - prior to Russian troops taking them over
    Illegally assassinating an Iranian general

    Like the Paris Climate Accord ?
    Like the Iran-US nuclear treaty

    Which showed the world that the USA's word could not be trusted

    And how EXACTLY did the China trade deal ONLY benefit Biden ?


    ROTFLMAO

    Trust? You've got to be having a laugh - what promises did Trump keep ?


    Man you are totally clueless

    Trump ran the most dysfunctional administration in history. He fired and replaced more people than any president - ever

    "Forward thinking" LOL
    I challenge you to find a quote that describes Trump's nominations to the SC as "forward thinking" - they are arch conservatives


    He sullied the USA's reputation and made the USA a laughing stock around the world

    Evidence ?

    So what?
    The US trade gap grew wider or didn't you notice that ?

    So the Keystone oil pipeline from Canada was what, a figment of your imagination?
    Biden has cancelled that


    No he didn't - that would b the DEA and the wall played zero part

    WTF ?
    Trump had fence erected around the White House that Biden is having torn down

    LOL
    What were those "lies" again ?
    (he was impeached Btw - twice. The only president to be impeached twice and the only president to be impeached during a first term)

    Nope, there's zero evidence of corruption against Joe Biden
    Trump did abuse the office of president for personal political gain though trying to get this mythical "evidence"

    Yes he did do that, he motivated people to votes in larger numbers than ever to vote him out
    The election was NOT stolen. There is zero evidence of election fraud on anything like that scale
    You are a deluded sheep whose fallen for Trump's lies

    He tried to take the credit for it - that's true
    In actual fact Trump did nothing to help and even denied funding to the company developing the vaccine

    But you're not interested in little facts like that, you're interested in Trump's lies

    Don't worry, it seems like you have done

    *their
    **"she" ?

    Georgia is a blue state now...though that is in spite of the efforts of voter suppression by its Republican officials. In a couple of years time, we'll have a Democratic governor to go with our two Democratic senators

    One thing Georgia is doing though, is assembling a grand jury to decide if Trump has criminal charges to face because of his call to the Georgia secretary of state.

    Lindsey Graham may be facing criminal charges too.

    Honestly, you know √ SFA on what you're talking about.
     
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  17. Makemstine Roger

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    Roger certainly can - he's obviously a Trump fan boy.

    Trump has left an indelible stain on US politics. He really was that bad.
     
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  19. Makemstine Roger

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    a cracking laugh



     
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  20. blonogasoven

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    Are you autistic?
    The way you pick apart every detail of people's comments does look like you are.

    You don't like Trump. I get it but as you've been told before, you're regurgitating all the same **** from Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon and the crew. We've heard it.

    If you think Pelosi is similar to Thatcher you're either on a huge wind up (which I suspect) or your mind is so mashed up that you can't think straight.
    Her and Schumer do think like you though.

    Get yourself checked out just in case.
     
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