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Police Man Recorded Being Racist

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  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?newsfeed=true

    Scotland Yard is facing a racism scandal after a black man used his mobile phone to record police officers subjecting him to a tirade of abuse in which he was told: "The problem with you is you will always be a ******".

    The recording, obtained by the Guardian, was made by the 21-year-old after he was stopped in his car, arrested and placed in a police van the day after last summer's riots.

    The man, from Beckton, east London, said he was made to feel "like an animal" by police. He has also accused one officer of kneeling on his chest and strangling him.

    In the recording, a police officer can be heard admitting he strangled the man because he was "a ****". Moments later, another officer – identified by investigators as PC Alex MacFarlane – subjects the man to a succession of racist insults and adds: "You'll always have black skin. Don't hide behind your colour."

    The Independent Police Complaints Commission referred the case to the Crown Prosecution Service on the basis that three officers, including MacFarlane, may have committed criminal offences.

    The CPS initially decided no charges should be brought against any of the police officers. However on Thursday, the service said it would review the file after lawyers for the man threatened to challenge the decision in a high court judicial review. MacFarlane has been suspended.

    The inquiry began after the victim handed his mobile phone to a custody desk in Forest Gate police station and told officers he had been abused.

    Earlier, he had been driving through Beckton with a friend when he was stopped by a van containing eight police officers from Newham borough. London's streets were flooded with police who had been drafted in to contain the rioting.

    The officers arrested the man on suspicion of driving under the influence of drugs and told him he was being taken to a police station to be searched. After being taken into the van, the man was also arrested for missing a previous magistrates court appearance. No further action is to be taken in relation to the suspected driving offence.

    It was once inside the van and handcuffed that the man said he was assaulted by police. He described having his head pushed against the van window and said one officer placed his knees on his chest and began strangling him. "I couldn't breathe and I felt that I was going to die," he said.

    The man said he decided to turn on the recording facility of his phone after MacFarlane allegedly made sexually explicit references about his mother and telling him he would be "dead in five years".

    In the recording, the man sounds agitated; he raises his voice to complain about his treatment and in places insults the arresting officers. The verbal exchange lasts several minutes.

    When the man tells an officer: "you tried to strangle me", the officer replies: "No, I did strangle you." The officer adds that he strangled him "'cos you're a ****" and that the man had been "kicking out". In relation to the strangling, the officer says: "Stopped you though, didn't it?"

    Minutes later MacFarlane, who is white, begins abusing the man. After a period of silence, he can be heard telling him: "The problem with you is you will always be a ******, yeah? That's your problem, yeah."

    The man reads out MacFarlane's badge number and complains that he had subjected him to racist comments: "I'll always be a ****** – that's what you said, yeah?"

    MacFarlane replies: "You'll always have black skin colour. Don't hide behind your colour, yeah." He adds: "Be proud. Be proud of who you are, yeah. Don't hide behind your black skin."

    Shortly before the recording ends, the man can be heard saying: "I get this all the time." He then tells the officer: "We'll definitely speak again about this … It's gonna go all the way, it's gonna go all the way – remember."

    The man's lawyer, Michael Oswald, said: "By his own efforts our client has put before the CPS exceptionally strong evidence and we share his astonishment that the CPS have reached a decision that no police officer should be prosecuted on the basis of that evidence. We do welcome their agreement to review that decision and we now await the outcome of that review."

    The CPS initially said charges should not be brought against MacFarlane because the remarks did not cause the man harassment, distress or alarm.

    Grace Ononiwu, deputy chief crown prosecutor for CPS London, said: "Lawyers for [the complainant] have written to the CPS and asked us to review our decision. I have considered the matter personally and directed that all the evidence should be reconsidered and a fresh decision taken by a senior lawyer with no previous involvement in this matter."

    Speaking to the Guardian, the 21-year-old was visibly shaken when recounting the ordeal. "It's hard to explain, but it makes you feel like a piece of **** – it makes you feel not even human," he said.

    "I was glad that I had it on the recording. I knew that if I had it saved I could show that I had been abused.

    "It's not right. We've just got different skin colour – underneath it we're all the same."

    The Metropolitan police confirmed in a statement that it received a complaint on 11 August about alleged "racial" remarks and oppressive conduct.

    "These are serious allegations; any use of racist language or excessive use of force is not acceptable."

    The force said it had referred the case to the IPCC and that one officer had been suspended.

    MacFarlane's solicitor, Colin Reynolds, said: "The officer has been the subject of an investigation, has co-operated in that and been advised he is not to be the subject of criminal proceedings."

    Estelle du Boulay, director of the Newham Monitoring Project, said: "Sadly, the shocking treatment of this young man at the hands of police officers – both the physical brutality he describes and the racial abuse he claims he suffered – are by no means unusual; it compares to other reports we have received. What makes this case different is the victim had the foresight and courage to turn on a recording device on his mobile phone."

    She compared the incident to the case of Liam Stacey, a student who was jailed for 56 days for posting offensive comments on Twitter after the on-pitch collapse of the Bolton Wanderers footballer Fabrice Muamba.

    On Friday Swansea crown court rejected an appeal from Stacey, who used racist terms against other Twitter users.

    When the student was sentenced in a magistrates court on Tuesday a senior lawyer at the CPS, Jim Brisbane, said: "Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media. We hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law."
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    I just read that before coming on here.

    I am at a loss as to why charges were not brought in the first instance.
     
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  3. Hash.

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    <ok>
     
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    I'd love to hear the whole thing.
    The policeman should be sacked, but it seems like most of the conversation was either missed or edited out.
    Poor decision from the CPS, though. Ridiculous choice.

    Were this lot local police or had they been drafted in?
    Doesn't seem like they'd last long with that attitude in London.
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

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    Whilst I have little sympathy with the Police, this does not sound like some babe in arms who is making the complaint, indeed the words "the man was also arrested for missing a previous magistrates court appearance" tend to point towards him being a petty crim at the very least and for that alone any sympathy I have goes out the window.

    The Copper should still get the heave ho, but this looks like is a case of entrapment, with the victim's side of the story being the only one that is being listened to. In an ideal world we would not get racists in the police forces of the UK, but in an ideal world we would'nt have smartass wiseacres with scant regard for the law acting the **** for the sake of it.
     
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    Dev in backing up bent cops shocker ;)

    Only joking, aye we have only heard one side here so i will spare my show of mock outrage for now
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    Exactly Jacky, the Copper should have been better than that but the Victim here is no Angel it would appear.
     
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    Hopefully this will lead to riots again, and we'll have something decent to watch on TV. Especially if they get the water cannon in, watching scallies being sprayed around the streets would be brilliant.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    And i'm looking for a new Telly.
     
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    What the victim has or hasn't done is irrelevant as far as the law is concerned and my default disposition is to feel the same way.
     
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  11. SaintsForTheWin

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    Dev has typed what I was thinking in better English. <ok>
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    His "previous" is irrelevant in law certainly Reb but I believe in Karma.
     
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    Fair enough.

    I think I believe in karma too but I do believe in the judicial system and despite decisions that I just don't understand (particularly in Scotland) I think it is amongst the things that British (English and Welsh in particular) have gotten just about right.

    Generally I am not a believer in summary justice*, even more so when it is meted out by an instrument of the State. For that reason, I hope to see this cop held accountable for his actions.


    * I am sure you can call me on at least one circumstance that will challenge that.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    I hope he is held accountable too - as he deserves - but I hope this is not just some ned looking for a payout.
     
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  15. RebelBhoy

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    I think the recording was made to 'get' the officer but the fallout is the payout.
     
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  16. KingHotspur

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    No matter what any arrested person says, a copper should never be racist and make comments like that.

    The guy could be scum of the earth but in Britain our police should be professional enough to deal with them properly without racist or offensive comments.
     
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    Of course. Or indeed physically assault folk as this officer concedes he did.
     
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    Sounds to me like the racist comments and alleged rough treatment occured subsequent to the arrested man kicking out at officers in the back of the van. This whole affair could have been avoided if they had just tazered him at that point. <ok>
     
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    Oh Christ don't get BillyBhoy started about water canons!!!
     
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