http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18826706 £250K, replacement for Murphy, welcome home Darren (please)
Christ is Darren Ambrose really 32! I feel old, very old! 250k for him would be great bit of business, don't know what sort of wages he would require though. but playing behind chops in the centre of the attcking 3 midfielders would be perfect.
Pretty sure he's only 28, at that age would be a great signing. For the last three seasons he's had a decent scoring record, and would be the answer to our left midfield problem. Awful journalism from BBC though!
yeah he is only 28, just checked! definately a bargain at 250k and would fit perfectly in the formation we were playing at the end of the season. Jewell and Clegg time to get your finger out of your ass and nab him!
Sorry to piss on your parade boys but he was pretty rubbish last time we had him here! Time to move on, nothing to see here!
but 250k on a perm deal JWM, and the formation we played at the end of last season it could well work. he has been one of crystal palaces stand out players so he can definately do a job in the championship rather than go out and get a 19 year old who can't get a place in the spurs squad. Who do you think would be more of an asset to the team JWM, Ambrose or this kid from spurs?
Are you joking JWM? The last time he was here, on loan under Jim, he had more creativity, invention and shots on target then the rest of the team combined for the rest of the season (possibly a slight exaggeration) He was the last true spark I can remember having here and combined with Gio (who many still **** over) has been the most entertaining town player I can remember for a very long time. Now Gio is a pipe dream but Ambrose is available and cheap!
I always think that it's a bad idea to invite old players back! The only one that has done well for us is Johnny Wark. There are plenty of talented players out there and I don't see the benefit of getting an old boy back. If it had of worked out last time he would probably still be here now. Learn from the Jimmy Bullard mistake and move on!
its not the fact that hes an old boy but the fact that he is cheap, not over the hill, out of form or a known idiot and available! The fact that he used to play for us and has been willing to come back here before is an added bonus but not the important fact.
perfectly valid points tractorbhoy. we have good players in midfield, but out of all of them Jimmy Bullard is the only one with a decent amount of experience at this level! of course its a gamble, any signing is, but for the fee quoted a good gamble.
I'm with JWM on this one, not too keen tbh. Firstly I don't think he's overly different from what we already have, he could be used as a winger but like all of those in our squad is probably more comfortable centrally, if we get an attacking midfielder this transfer window I would prefer to see us get an out and out winger ideally. I have to say he didn't look that great when he came back on loan here a few seasons ago where he played mainly on the left wing where he didn't look very good and you could see he kept wanting to play centrally meaning we lost our balance. Clearly a good player but not a player who plays in a position we really need strengthening in!!
Good argument PTC although I have to disagree about your & JWM's view of him during his loan spell. He may not be an out and out winger but nor was Murphy who played there before hand and neither is JET. With the 4-2-3-1 it makes using a true winger that little bit harder as they ideally need to drift in to support the loan striker. I think this may be the reason Carson saw so little use as although is wing play is excellent he doesnt offer as much support in the central attacking role. I agree we need to concentrate on other positions but for £250k it seems such a miniscule amount for the talent he has. Having Carson/ Stevenson/ JET/ Martin and Ambrose to cover the front 3 midfield places would look very threatening to me.
I can't understand why you guys wouldn't want a player who has proven to be a very good championship player for what i would call, a very, very reasonable sum. yes he didn't set the world alight in his loan spell, but sometimes loan spells are very hard to judge a player, he could be living out of a hotel room away from his family, that could affect his performance. he also needs to get to know other players styles, this takes more than 2months. more often than not, a club won't select a style to fit into a loan players style, so it is square pegs for round holes. Ambrose is not a winger, he likes to come inside, our style suits that. to me its a no brainer at that price. brum will have a bargain.
We have far more pressing positions that need to be filled and we have plenty of cover in the midfield areas. I want to see a Goal Keeper and another striker here first.
I would not be completely against it but I think like I said it's a position we have alot of options in. In Martin/JET/Drury & Stevenson we have 4 players who are all fairly interchangeable in those 3 attacking positions, something I think Ambrose would be similar to those, add to that Carson who is more of a winger and Bullard and Lawrence who can play in an attacking midfield role, I'd prefer us to get someone who is more comfortable on the LW, something I don't believe Ambrose is. If we did sign him, I would be pleased I just think other positions and different style players are more of a priority.
I think we are ok in Midfield i'd like another CB, Striker and maybe a Keeper unless we are gonna try a new 4 5 2 formation.....
I agree 100% with JWM & PTC (but not WCP out of principle) Lets move on, more pressing matters to worry about, like a new GK/CB/ST. Ambrose is injury prone and as mentioned, hardly set the world alight during his last stint at PR, there is a reason palace only want 250k and that is because that is all he is worth!!
Ambrose or Murphy...............? Anyone still think Ambrose would be a **** signing? I don't, although I haven't started drinking yet, hic........ He's quality IMO and would do a good job on the left. A goalie and another centre back would be more of a priority though. Hope he doesn't go to Brum, they're a bunch of ****s