1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Please Please Please..... Put Toby in the back 4

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by stjohnson, May 6, 2015.

  1. stjohnson

    stjohnson Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    50
    We have become really weak at the back in the last 3 games conceding 2 goals a game its time to stop messing about and put Toby back at centre back. Reed or Davis to play alongside Big Vic in midfield. We cant afford to keep losing games there is still a good chance of finishing above Liverpool and Spurs but we have to stop leaking silly goals.
     
    #1
    OddRiverOakWizards and davecg69 like this.
  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    *raises hand in favour*
     
    #2
  3. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2012
    Messages:
    4,813
    Likes Received:
    150
    Hear, hear.
     
    #3
  4. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    17,358
    Likes Received:
    10,715
    Yep, im with this too. Reed-Wanyama for me.
     
    #4
  5. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    Please please put Forster in goal..... Oh.
     
    #5
  6. Bill Hill

    Bill Hill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2015
    Messages:
    923
    Likes Received:
    721
    Agree toby is v high quality at cb not so much in dm or rb where he is solid but nothing more. Its odd tactics when we lose a player and weaken a second position to fill the gap
     
    #6
  7. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Or Boruc..? Sorry SKD.
     
    #7
  8. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    Or Gazza?
     
    #8
  9. mowgli

    mowgli Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2013
    Messages:
    2,993
    Likes Received:
    2,762
    I think there is a danger in underestimating the defensive role of the midfielder in that position. He protects the centre backs. If the centre back is beaten, they've probably already beaten Toby to get there.

    Yoshida has been the unsung hero this year for me though I do agree Toby behind Morgan and big Vic is the best scenario
     
    #9
  10. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    I think we are missing Forster far more then missing Toby in defence.
     
    #10

  11. davecg69

    davecg69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,759
    Likes Received:
    6,822
    I think Toby has been an amazing player for us this season, but I can't say I'm completely impressed with him in midfield. Maya has played really well, but the truth is, we are stronger with Toby and Jose in the back 4. I know we'll be weaker without Morgan, but I think Harry Reed deserves his chance in midfield alongside Vic. Will be interesting to see what Ronald does for Sat.
     
    #11
  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Is he getting there..? Posters will probably know that I've been a bit of a fan of Gazza's right from the start, in that I realise all his faults but that he has plenty of time to improve. What he is masterful at is the distribution because he's that rare thing, a goalkeeper who is also a half-decent footballer. Recently I've been hearing good things about his goalkeeping, although I've not looked at his play myself.

    I agree on Forster even though I didn't think I'd say it.
     
    #12
  13. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    Still scares the **** out of me when the ball goes near him. But the games I have seen lately he has improved his positioning big time. He comes out to collect corners etc as well. I respect Davis big time and thank him for what he has done for Saints. But I feel his reactions (diving mainly) are far too slow. I would give Gazza a go.
     
    #13
    Last edited: May 6, 2015
  14. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    67,939
    Likes Received:
    37,010
    I would give Gazzaniga the last 3 games. Sorry Kelvin.
     
    #14
  15. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    59,396
    Likes Received:
    42,530
    Same here time for Gazza to step up
     
    #15
  16. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,275
    Likes Received:
    39,193
    Apart from highlights I have only seen Gazza in the U21 final this season, and he was very solid and unflappable in that. Different standard I know, but I'd give him a go against Leicester at least.
     
    #16
  17. Tintin

    Tintin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    1,202
    Likes Received:
    308
    If Koeman puts Alderweireld and Wanyama at DM again I am going to be fuming.....put Reed and Wanyama there for ****'s sake and play the strongest back four
     
    #17
  18. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    67,939
    Likes Received:
    37,010
    I agree with playing Reed but whatever Koeman decides I'll back him. I trust him as every Saints fan should after the season we've had.
     
    #18
  19. Paddy Podped

    Paddy Podped Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    5,978
    Likes Received:
    5,448
    I'd go back to 3-5-2.

    Toby, Fonte and Yoshida at the back.
    Clyne and Bertrand on the wings
    Wanyama, JWP and Davis in midfield
    Mane and Pelle up front
     
    #19
  20. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,522
    Likes Received:
    5,485
    Yoshida is a perfectly good 2nd choice CB. If Roko thinks Toby is best used CDM then ill trust him.
    RE Davis, he hasn't made any howlers and doesn't deserve to be dropped. We won't change our GK now and I don't think we should.
    An davis's reactions are still top notch (see Burnley), its getting down for low shots that cause him trouble.
     
    #20

Share This Page