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Piracy, the reason for financial losses in the creative industry?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Sam Axe, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. Sam Axe

    Sam Axe Active Member

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    We are forever hearing how piracy is the number 1 cause of falling revenues in the creative industry and how everything would be better if we had no online piracy.

    Not in France, it seems.

    Since adopting the three strike rule piracy has dropped massively in France, so you would expect that revenues are up, right? That would be logical.

    Not so, however, as in the French music industry revenues are down by 3.9% in 2011 and in the French film industry revenues are down by 2.7%.

    Will this serve as a wake up call to those people calling for tougher powers over the Internet or will this little fact be swept under the rug and ignored as the media industry and governments move towards the destruction of all freedoms on the Internet? If history is anything to go by I suspect it will be the later.

    http://torrentfreak.com/french-three-strikes-law-slashes-piracy-but-fails-to-boost-sales-120330/

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...cy-if-it-doesnt-increase-sales.shtml#comments
     
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  2. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Anyone ever been warned about piracy? I've been downloading music, films, software and porn almost every day for the last decade, never so much as a strongly worded e-mail.
     
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  3. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs
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    They are losing money because it costs 20 quid for a bluray the money grabbing ****s. Sell them for a fiver and you'll see people buying them, just like people will buy singles from itunes for 99p long after they completely stopped buying the £3.50 singles from Virgin Megastores.
     
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  4. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Correct.

    If they could stop online piracy they wouldn't see their revenues increase. I suspect the majority of those who were downloading just wouldn't bother buying the movies and music they were getting for free.

    I know I've watched lot's of movies I wouldn't have otherwise bothered with. Very rare that I fancy a movie so much I'd go to the cinema and almost as rare that I want to buy a DVD/Blueray. I'm quite happy to wait until a movie turns up on the telly.
     
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  5. GroveRanger

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    Bloody Pirates
     

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  6. Glesgabhoy67

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    I still like the cinema, I've got one of those unlimited cards though so after I smuggle juice and crisps in it doesn't cost too much, £14.99 a month and it's a trip out the house, you can't really complain.

    The cost of Blu-rays is outrageous though. Unless it is something I am 100% sure I would watch time and again I wouldn't pay the cash.
     
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  7. Sam Axe

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    Don't be a snob, buy a normal DVD <whistle>
     
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  8. Glesgabhoy67

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    They are overpriced as well though, £12 for a new release and you will probably watch it once ... maybe coming back to it years later. I'll pay for TV boxsets, I usually like the show and it's a good way to kill time if you are in bed no well. But feature films just aren't worth the money they are looking for.
     
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  9. Sam Axe

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    If you wait a while before purchasing you can usually pick them up for peanuts in the bargain bin, usually 2nd hand.
     
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  10. Magic Laudrup 11

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    I liked the digital copies you get with some blurays. Got a new phone a few months ago (which is one of the best on the market) but doesn't play the digital copies or support sky go <doh>
     
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  11. Sam Axe

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    That's aggressive DRM for you <ok>
     
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    Get this shore off GC!!
     
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  13. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Aaaarrrrrr.
     
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  14. Sam Axe

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    Get a big dick up ye.
     
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    <ok>

    I have my phone connected to my computer as well, put disc in and enter verification code and it has recognised my phone. Spends 20 minutes putting the movie on it then tells me it can't be played <doh>
     
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    everything should be free
     
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  17. stopmeandslapme

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    The way I see it, if it's been on TV, there is and always was no law against me making and keeping a copy from video casette to dvd recorder to Sky+ box. So downloading something that someone else has gone to the trouble of copying is just my lazy way of getting a copy.

    I used to buy DVDs, got over 400 - they take up loads of space, are a pain to look through for the next episode and those flipping piracy warnings! Gradually getting everything onto hard disc.
     
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  18. Mick

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    The only way back is the likes of Lovefilm or selling them much cheaper than what they do.

    But in honesty I have access to every single new release movie, in high definition, to download within minutes, to watch on a big tv, for free - and yet there are absolutely no new release movies which I actually want to watch, for free.

    If I don't really want it for free then I'm never going to pay for it.
     
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