http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...yle-survives-it-will-have-been-a-success.html He should be given the freedom of the city, the guy's a legend. Ridsdale isn't fit to wipe his boots - FACT!
I read that article yesterday and you have to take your hat off to the man for his lack of bitterness. I know you can never be 100% sure how genuine the words of somebody are but I am inclind to believe him. I do think he couldn't bring himself to walk away once he had started and saw it as a mission somehow to try to drag the club up. I wish he had come here when things were ok rather than when he did. It would have been easier to dislike him if the results had been the same as now. Not sure about legend but I think he will always have a place in the hearts of Argyle fans who know how much,even in money terms he tried to help. Not sure many others would have.
As a social worker he might be classed as a legend..............but as a football manager,taking into account all the problems at the club and on the field to get a winning team out..........no............results are the only fact taken into account at the end of the season after 46 games. The Football League do not take anything else into consideration.............no brownie points for strenuous circumstances beyond the call of duty...........55 very poor matches as manager...........one of the worse on paper in any era at Plymouth............but a nicer man it would be hard to find...........he didn't know how to step back ,and feel he was letting people down......... a possible relief but disappointing end to his time at PAFC.
That's a bit harsh isn't it Plymborn? Success in football used to be 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration. Now it's 5% perspiration, 10% inspiration and 85% remuneration. It's a bit of a miracle that the club's held together at all. Yes, results have been abysmal but I'm not at all convinced that a Mourinho or Ferguson would have seen us climbing the league against the current background.
Would call him a Saviour rather than a Legend....probably kept the whole squad together at his time here but neverless a top bloke!
Between August and December 2010 in DIV ONE Argyle with most of their Playing staff still intact and before the disaster completely unfolded,should have acquired enough points to easily avoided relegation...........Peter Reid was unable to stir any stability of form from that squad of players.................we should at present be fighting relegation from DIV ONE not DIV TWO. Any average team should be able to lose 10 points and stay above the relegation line, the die had been cast and Reid taking into account all his good points could not keep them up. In years to come people only remember the stats in the books and the heartache never shows on the written page of Sky Sports Football Yearbook for instance........accept in the hearts of those fans who went through it all every week.
That same over-sized squad assembled largely by Sturrock that plummeted through 2 divisions at headlong pace? The same squad without access to any transfer window in which there were either the funds nor the club credibility to recruit players? Nonsense Plymborn, with the ability to renew the squad maybe safety could and should have been achieved, I'll accept that. Without it, it would have taken a miracle.
I don't agree notDistantGreen............only seven points short of staying up............they played like it would be alright........under estimated the situation during the first half of the season.........nothing to do with needing to renewing the squad...........Reid didn't know how to chivvy them up to be just average........he needed coaching help and his staff let him down. That ten point loss should not have brought relegation.
I agree with Distant in that Plymborn is being harsh - very harsh in fact. Name any manager who could have done better with the set of circumstances we found ourselves in. I don't believe anyone could have done better and 99.9% wouldn't have even tried! Peter Reid had no money to bring any of his own players in so how exactly can he be blamed for someone elses players failing to deliver? I don't believe anyone else would have been able to acheive the turnaround that was required after the 10 point deduction, it wouldn't have been far short of a miracle and acheived by unpaid players. Some people want blood. The man's a legend!
We had better hope he can results wise Mrs lalala or the consequences don't bare thinking about. Could he have done the job previously is a reasonable question and I don't think he could have. I willl conceed that as a man Reid is something of a legend but as a Manager on the football front I don't. I absolutely agree that none of the other Managers in the football league or any league for that matter would have done better. It is easy to be a Manager when you can pop out and buy another player. Ok maybe not easy but certainly easier. I wanted to judge Reid on the football front when he actually had a chance and not as it was for his time here. Sadly that is not going to be possible now. I have every respect though for the man himself,
Well yippee yahoo - I'm sure that Peter Reid will be absolutely delighted to learn that pearl of wisdom Sensible - you Pedantic Plymothian Pen Pusher - you may not agree with the sentiment but you have to admire the alliteration - oh well perhaps not
Argyle could have been at least 10/15 points better off before Christmas 2010.........before the roof fell in, with players that should have done OK in DIV ONE. They were sloppy and non-motivated and didn't get a good ear bashing from the Manager.........so when they lost their better players and 10 points they were to late........with all the other problems thrown at them the points they had given away before Christmas would have kept them up............Managers problem, Managers mistake, non-motivator. If Reid could of been as good as he was off the pitch there would of been no problem on the pitch.
That's a lot of big words from somebody so small oldnicky. That stragely is the object of a discussion board. You know the ones. The sort where people put their own opinions down when it is a subject they have an opinion about and want to comment. If you don't agree with the comments I make then fine, just say so and give your own opinion.
I bet Sir Alex or Arsene Wenger would have struggled on the players we have now... they can only manage Mega Stars Mega Money.
That was the point I was making bedoboy. That and the fact that I'd like to have judged Reid when he stood a chance rather than the bare statistics of his reign as they turned out. Fact is we will never really know if he could have done a job for us in "normal" circumstances. The stats don't really give good reading taken in isolation which makes it a problem giving him a rating on football matters. In other ways the guy was a bit of a saint.
If I remember too could have survived in Championship & Div.1 if players & management got it together...but 3 relegations is a very serious thought....Whatever happened about 3 yrs. ago....the New World showed up & all hell let loose. Typical!
I'm sorry Plymborn but I cannot agree with what you are saying. To turn it around after the 10 point deduction would have been playing in promotion form and all this when "we had players who didn't want to turn up for training". Like sensible I would have liked to have seen Reidy manage without all the restrictions.
Sorry Sensible, do not understand your mail: Big words from someone so small - eh??? Does not compute captain. Anyway, YOUR idea of a discussion board is a platform to give everybody the benefit of your wit, and vast experience of being a know it all, not invented here font of all wisdom. Regarding Peter Reid IF you ---------------ah just forget OVER & OUT
