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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by ThaiCanary, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    When are UK citizens going to make a stand about the political correctness situation in the country. I am more and more baffled by what I read on this issue - and it is an issue - UK people have let this go way too far now..

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  2. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    It would seem to me that a noisy minority in the UK are just looking for a reason to be offended, giving them a voice, and the fear that has been driven in to the remainder of the population are now scared to stand up and have their freedom of speech, the very thing our ancestors fought to achieve - oooh, it makes me mad :mad:

    Enter Guru <ok>
     
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  3. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    Well said Thai - this is absolutely ridiculous. An unintended similarity is all.
     
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  4. JKCanary

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    Bit silly putting the words 'New Order' as the headline though. You'd have thought at least one of the design team would've noticed.

    Still, they've apologised for any offence caused, so that should be the end of it.
     
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    Of course it was intentional! <doh>

    It was the bloody Nazi's they fought Thai.
     
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  6. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    So who is actually offended by it, and who actually should be - I'l bet the two groups are not the same.
     
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  7. JKCanary

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    Can one say "who actually should be offended"?

    Being offended is subjective after all.
     
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    robbieBB Well-Known Member

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    I don't think this is political correctness at all. It is a completely justified apology for a crass example of ineptitude by their publicity department, staffed no doubt by historically illiterate and morally insensitive copywriters incapable of thinking of anything beyond local bands and their graphics software. <ok>
     
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  9. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    Lots of nonsense over nothing, still as it Man Utd, I'm going to write and complain about how offensive and degrading it is to victims of the holocaust. Given the huge Jewish community in manchester and their support for the club magnifies the level of offence-
     
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  10. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Robbie, working on that logic, and the way the UK is today, there are an awful lot of words that should then be banned as they are likely to offend someone, somewhere. I have no doubt many Africans are still upset about slavery in the 19th century - should we brush that under the carpet too, so as not to offend someone?
     
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    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Well quite, it is but what I am trying to ask is.....Who ought to be offended by a symbol that looks partially familiar to the swastika, and the words 'New order'?

    The Jews? Yes, without question....but who else?

    Do we, as a nation, take offence to pictures of Stalin or the Hammer & sickle symbol? Nope, so why would the British be offended by this?
     
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  12. JKCanary

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    You're right, I'm sure there are no Jewish, British, Man Utd fans...

    ... not that that would be the only group that could be offended.
     
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  13. robbieBB

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    Nothing to do with banning anything, or brushing anything under carpets. It is simply to do with the crass unthinking illiteracy of so much of modern life. <ok>
     
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  14. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Of course there will be, and I believe they have the right to be offended as it was their faith and families that were persecuted, and I would support but why do the British in general deem it as offensive? I am guessing you do, so let me know why, and why is what happened in Russia before Stalin came along, and what happened when he did take power, does not offend you?
     
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  15. JKCanary

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    To be honest Thai, I'm not necessarily 'offended' by it. I'm kind of playing devil's advocate.
    I just think that everyone has the right to be offended, but no one has the right to tell someone they shouldn't be offended.
     
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  16. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    ah well, we could argue this one for months <laugh> I don't see why anyone should be offended by something that does not directly, or indirectly impact their life.

    Back to the symbol, the Swastika does not offend me in the slightest, as it is a symbol of an regime that came, was defeated, and will hopefully never return. My family was never impacted directly or indirectly affected by the Nazi's (note - not the German army), so I have no 'reason' to be offended by it, although of course I am appalled at what they did.
     
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  17. JKCanary

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    Haha, I'm sure we could!

    The swastika (just as an example) can evoke all sorts of feelings in different people. Show the image to a Jew, and you'd get a completely different reaction to that of a Hindu.

    I don't think you can limit the argument to "you can't be offended because it has nothing to do with you or your family".
     
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    It's not just about being offended either. It is a matter of having the sensitivity and understanding to be able to empathise with other people who have suffered. I don't mean those who pretend to manufactured "suffering"; I mean those who have genuinely suffered or are suffering. <ok>
     
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  19. JKCanary

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    True.
     
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  20. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Here we go then, the question has to be asked <laugh>

    Who can be offended then? There has to be a reason for offence to be taken, other than 'coz I don't like it' - and there is the issue. Many people take offence but could not tell you why.

    Some people are offended by 1 person calling another person a 'spastic', a commonly used word in the 70's. The term was never originally used in a derogatory way, more of an all-encompassing term - hence the forming of the Spastic Society, but my question to them would be, why are they offended by it, and in perhaps 95% or more cases, the response would not indicate why offence was taken, other than 'I don't like it, or 'it's not right', but still couldn't tell you why, other than repeating what they have heard or read in the media.
     
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