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Paris, I'll kick us off....

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by Westlake33, Nov 14, 2015.

  1. Westlake33

    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    Dear god, my thoughts go out to everyone there in this ridiculous attack.

    Going to delve into my view on this slightly as bored at work.

    I think this was inevitable. The Syrian crisis is awful, and again I feel for the people. In some of these countries from that region the conditions these poor people live is pathetic, the " leaders " need killing and fast. ( In my opinion )

    Merkel decided that countries should accept a quota - what was that going to really achieve? Syria has a population of 22,000,0000 - so why should a few lucky ones get salvation in other lands? What about the poor 85% who don't get the golden ticket ala Willy Wonka? The most idiotic " solution " to anything I can ever remember. Also, the surrounding countries in the middle east are refusing to take a single person or help. LOVELY. So it's over to the Western Block again to help.

    Finland / Denmark are countries that are never portrayed as racist in the way the eastern block are. Well, I read an article re Finland that two years ago over 100,000 people applied for asylum there and they accepted less than 10! Sweden gets marginalised as they want a similar system and Swedish Democrats are growing rapidly. Funny that....

    Then, idiot Merkel, did you not think that countries like Croatia / Serbia ( who have had enough problems the past 200 years ) would be receptive to all and sundry flying through their countries?

    Also, we have the left wing bias BBC who are incapable of reporting a story impartially. Take the Hungary border gate. They tried to portray Hungary as a facist country by showing them with the watercannons/ children. 1 - what sick idiotic parent would have their child by the cannon, and 2 - why did the BBC NOT report the people attacking the Hungarian police and the border and refusing to listen? God I hate the BBC - report in neutrally do not influence people in the nation please.

    We now have a situation where over 200,000 a month NEW people are embarking on a dangerous journey to better their lifes. This is not a long-term solution. The United Nations were set up in 1946 to solve issues, all they have achieved is countries wasting £££££££ for F all.

    The issue is, we can have 99.9% of very good people -and that is likely to be the case who do things properly and want what's best for that. So based on 2,000,000 people @ 99.9% that's 1,998, 000 GOOD QUALITY people. But that is still 200 IDIOTS who want to absolutely ruin the west, and that's 2000 too many.

    So dear UN, are you going to come up with a SOLUTION or are you going to allow absolute anarchy to happen?

    I don't think it takes a Scientist or Mathematical genius to forecast ANOTHER attack happening somewhere in the west where more innocent people are killed / taken hostage.

    We're scared of offending certain cultures / we pussy foot around certain issues to be PC. But what does being PC achieve?

    I bloody hate religion across the board. Fair play to anyone religious but it's not for me. I remember going to church with mum growing up, and a lot of the regular church goers would look at people with contempt. It's another form of politics to me. Another thing that cracked me up is a lot of these regular church goers may be religious people but I am FAR FAR better as a human being than they will ever be.
     
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  2. wellyblue

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    WTF? This was a terrorist attack on Paris! Nothing to do with immigration policies, the ****s are already in the West...
     
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  3. Westlake33

    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    This is my take on it anyway - it's linked. A minority of absolute dickheads are intent on making the world a mess.
     
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    Is that the new euphemism for 'terrorist scum'?
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    Well it's a mess and I can foresee many more attacks happening the next few years.

    Very bad times.
     
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    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously the migrant/refugee situation is linked but this attack probably would have happened in some form anyway. The more direct link is the war in Syria, this was simply an escalation of that. West bombs IS, IS bombs the west. It's happened, it's horrible but in some ways it doesn't really matter anymore why or how. What's important is that nobody responds with hatred. Answers aren't simple or easy but what is clear to me is that more war is not the answer.
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    That sounds all well / good / nice Mike but I think some form of military action is imminent. Interesting month ahead.
     
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    Of course it will, can't see how it will help the situation in the long term though. ISIS is fueled and recruits on the idea of war between east and west, as far as possible we shouldn't escalate it. There will be plenty of teenagers and young adults in the middle east who won't be able to remember a pre-911 afghan war life. It can't be overly surprising some can be easily convinced that western soldiers/societies are the enemy
     
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    Well we're left with a couple of options.

    1 - Do nothing and hope the situation sorts itself out.

    2 - Do something back ( again innocent people will be taken into situation ) and like you say the situation will continue for years.

    So whatever countries opt to do, there are sadly going to be bucket loads more deaths over the next 5-10 years.

    I wish religion would F off personally - not a fan at all.
     
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    Never fear....I've changed my Facebook profile pic to that of the French flag. ISIS are now sh!tting themselves.
     
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    Well said Westy...agree 100%.
    I wonder what would happen if all countries in the west had nothing to do with any of the middle east countries...No troops there, no fighting, no bombing! Let them get on with their own devices. We need to give them no reason to want to terrorise us.
     
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    Not understanding why immigration is constantly getting the blame?

    One was a French National.

    Two or Three (dependent if it includes above) were residing in Belgium i believe?

    Not the first time attacks have come out of Belgium, so are we going to attack the Chechens and North African's too?

    During the London bombings, three of the four terrorists were British Born.

    The Syrian refugee, has it been proven yet that the perpetrator was the valid and legal owner of the passport?

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    An eye for an eye and we all end up blind!
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    Likewise I've seen numerous of these articles from people who are right - I don't want bad things to happen anywhere in the world. Perhaps France is more in peoples mind as the media coverage is showing what's happened and it's so close to home - that isn't to say I / many other people simply dismiss the poor people and idiotic incidents that happen in other country on a much more frequent basis.

    It would be fantastic if the world could live together as one - is that ever going to happen? Is it f***.

    Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    Predictable - France have struck back, today. That didn't take long did it.
     
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    Nice move by France, maybe they're not the cheese eating surrender monkeys of old...
     
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    I was out clubbing it in London last night, and London is on very high alert of a terrorist attack at the moment, every single person going into the club was thoroughly searched, metal detectors, the whole works, now this does not usually happen, usually you can just walk into a club and random people might be pulled out and patted down for drugs...we asked security what the **** this was all about and they told us that they were following police recommendations following Paris.
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth I think terrorism or not security is sooo slack and things only change when something happens.

    I mean it wouldn't be the most difficult thing to get anything you wished into a footy stadium if you were that way inclined.
     
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    Anyone can be brave dropping bombs from 30,000 ft! <ok>
     
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    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    Well since this has been posted, Turkey have definitely illegally shot down a Russian jet ( their story of events is the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time ) and a Russian ship has gone over with extra air defence put up. Turkey try anything else like that stunt and I think Russia will unleash a mammoth attack.

    Jeremy Corbyn doesn't want military action - I would say okay, fine. But without military action, Jeremy, what do you propose? Lets be clear, " diplomatic relations " have achieve a bucket load. NATO was created to solve issues, NATO is the biggest load of rubbish ever.

    World in absolute chaos.
     
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