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  1. bishbosh

    bishbosh Active Member

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    Newcastle boss Alan Pardew:

    "The performance up until the sending off was pretty sound. The two goals City scored, they have a lot of talent, but we threatened their goal and we looked like we could get something.

    "But it was a silly act from Steven Taylor and he has apologised to the lads.

    "Goalkeeper Tim Krul was fantastic and needed to be because Manchester City will not lose many games this season. At the end of the day we have just lost a game, nothing else, and have two home games coming up now."


    Lets dissect this statement shall we:-

    The performance up until the sending off was pretty sound - No it wasn't! Man City could have been 3-0 up inside 6 mins! How the **** is that "sound"

    The two goals City scored, they have a lot of talent - They have a lot of talent, granted. BUT each and every player on that pitch only has two legs! They aren't super human! If we can't match them physically, there is a problem.

    We threatened their goal and we looked like we could get something - No we didn't. End of!

    "But it was a silly act from Steven Taylor and he has apologised to the lads. - So he should too. No doubt he'll be apologising a lot this season cos the kid never learns! He's garaunteed to do something similarly brainless on another 4-5 occassions this season!

    Goalkeeper Tim Krul was fantastic and needed to be because Manchester City will not lose many games this season - Vey true - at least he got something right!

    At the end of the day we have just lost a game - We have but it wasn't just a defeat, it was a sound thumping - it could have been 10!

    have two home games coming up now - Again, he got this right - how observant! I'll look forward to his comments AFTER those two games! No doubt that will be Arsenal's fault, or PSG or anyone else but his and his team!
     
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  2. Eddie's British Plodders

    Eddie's British Plodders Well-Known Member

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    He's also been quoted with the following statement:

    “I thought in the first half we gave a decent account of ourselves against top top opposition. I was pleased with the guts and spirit we showed second half.”
     
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  3. monty987

    monty987 Well-Known Member

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    You will find Fulham a tough team to break down, well organised, and they have added Parker since they played us last Saturday but they are weak up front but have a player called Darren bent now !.
     
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  4. Heed

    Heed well known cheat

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    After Listening to him last night, I stopped myself from posting as I had a about a dozen F**** in two sentences. Standing at the side of the pitch, obviously gives a person a different perspective on a game than from the rest of us. He looked a bit shell shocked in the interview and got defensive very quickly.

    If he really believes in what he said, then he's a fool and needs to take a serious look at himself in the mirror.

    The Cabaye situation didn't help, nor do other things on around the club, but, to seriously come out with utter c*** like that belittles the intelligence of the fans.

    It shouldn't be left to Jonas to apologise on behalf of the team, that should be done by Pardew and it should have been last night.

    Defending the players is one thing, but these are grown men and a few home truths wouldn't go amiss with a few of them. The petulance and unprofessional attitude of some of the players was unbelievable and there for all to see and if Pardew can't see that he is as culpable as they are.

    It takes you back to the Orient thrashing and the aftermath of that display, where the strong characters stood up and got us going. Where are those type of characters now as I can't seen any.

    It needs leadership, and that starts with the Manager.
     
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  5. Gordonthetoony

    Gordonthetoony Well-Known Member

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    I am in Bularaia ansd watched the match without an English commentary which meant I count concentrate on the game without the waffle.
    We could have been been 3 down mbefore the 10th minute had it not been for Krull.
    Wasn't impressed by Debuchy defending how much room does he need to give the wingers, constantly exposed.
    Taylor, he still must attend lessons at the Comedy school for defending. With the number of camera's at matches now how did he think he was going to get away with clumping someone and he was fortunate to survive a penalty shout.
    Thought youg Dummett had a decent game when he came on.
    Tiote, like last year looses the ball too easily. Guttierez, least said the better and s for the rest of them totally anonimous.
    I think we are in for a long difficult season but Joking ear will be happy as it's another nail in Pardew's coffin and he's in the wings
    About 4 weeks ago I pedicted the scorw but in fairness had Dzelo a bot more alert he alone could have hit 3 more.
     
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  6. Consett Mag

    Consett Mag Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree Reedioheed. I wanted to see Pardew fired some time back, but since then other things happening have taken over as being the most concerning.

    There are no leaders out there. Jonas now joins Remy on the injury table, Taylor is gone for a few games and who knows if Cabaye will play for us again.

    But even a talented team need a leader, and from the displays of some of the players last night, Pardew's leadership is in the Italian generals league. We're knackered I fear - oh hang on, we've JFK to come in ...
     
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  7. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

    Beardsley's Rancid Sack Well-Known Member

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    Pardew should have gone after the Reading game last year. He lost the dressing room long ago imo. He has no power whatsoever at the club and is a ****ing Dinosaur tactically. We will fester like an open wound until he leaves but then again who the **** will come in? Fat **** Kinnear? Or some other bottom feeder?
     
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  8. Keith Fit

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    The club is in complete disarray. There's a few people who could change things. Sadly Ashley, kinnear and Pardew are not them.
     
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  9. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

    Beardsley's Rancid Sack Well-Known Member

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    Cabaye will leave on deadline day and we will sign no replacement. We all know this deep down and its ****ing depressing as hell.
     
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  10. 2010 tops dog

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    He is a bloody disgrace
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I don't mind Pards but that was crazy talk after the game. Why he didn't just say "we got badly humped off a quality team and must improve".
     
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    abc CissesCurriedGoat abc Well-Known Member

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    Judge him by his actions, don't defend/criticise him blindly just cos we want Pardew in/out.


    But here, his statement reeks of utter ****e

    "We threatened their goal and we looked like we could get something" can anyone tell me what game is he talking about?
     
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  13. Frank_Pingel_Legend

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    I also found it amusing that Pardew said Newcastle had had a "tough pre-season". St Mirren and Motherwell must be mightily flattered.

    He is beginning to sound ridiculous, though he's still not in Kinnear's class.
     
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  14. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, we did do pretty well up until the sending off. Yes they could have been 3-0 up, but that wasn't really down to us being ****. Cities passing moves were executed beautifully.

    I'm sure they will do far worse to teams this season.
     
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  15. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    Krul made 3 great saves inside 10 minutes and they also scored, we could have been 4-0 down after 10 minutes, that's not what I'd call doing well up until the sending off. You then also have to take in to account that they could/should have had two pentalties (Taylor on Zabaleta and Debuchy on Toure) and it only shows that we were a complete shambles and the first half an utter disaster for us. Now to be fair, once they scored the first we did have a 10-15 minute spell where we settled down and kept both the ball and our shape a little better. Unfortunately they scored a second just as we'd got a slight foothold in the game (but during this spell we didn't threaten the goal so not sure why AP is spouting this nonsense).

    It's clear that I'm not a Pardew fan, but I have to say with Cabaye leaving I'd love it if they got him a striker, a wide man and a replacement for Cabaye so that he at least got a fair chance of trying to reproduce our 5th place form. I don't like him but there is a small percentage of me (say 5%) that thinks maybe he's struggled purely because he's been hung out to try due to a lack of incomings and that he's not struggled just because he's a poor manager.

    If we don't get those signings then he's already shown last season that he can't produce with this current set of players so we may as well opt for a new guy to see if they can do any better with the current group. If we do get those signings then he gets 10-12 games for me.

    He simply has to stop hiding from the truth though, I can't handle the excuses. I mean does he honestly believe Cabaye would have affected that result/scoreline? I don't think it would have altered it one bit. And the threatening the goal comment etc (we got in to their box on 3 occassions all game) is just as bad as Kinnear because just like we're aware that uncle Joe didn't sign Krul we also know that we didn't threaten City's goal once if we're honest (apart from HBA's strike from 25 yards which went comfortably over the bar).

    If he wants to get me back onside (or at least get me thinking like he could get me back onside) I'd want honest assesments of our performances (both good and bad) from him going forward. I'd want no more of Cisse playing up top on his own as the ball comes straight back and we're under pressure again and I want to see Dummett start against West Ham to show that he's going to reward good performances and stop this "jobs for the boys" mentallity. For me that would be a small step in the right direction. I need to see something from him that suggests he knows where we're going wrong and I really hope I get to see that on Saturday.
     
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  16. bishbosh

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    ......but you already know deep down that he can't deliver what you want from him!
     
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  17. RobEllious

    RobEllious Well-Known Member

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    I mean does he honestly believe Cabaye would have affected that result/scoreline?

    I think you're underestimating the value of a player that pumps ball after ball to nowhere for a team that aspires to finish 17th
     
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  18. Keith Fit

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    It's all very annoying but we really need to hang fire til September 3rd for everyone involved. If on that day we still have Ameobi on the bench, crap performance on the field and no real spend from either the 60m we got from sky/bt or the 15m we get from Cabaye (let's assume the Carroll cash is little more than a hazy memory), then action will need to be taken.

    I do subscribe to the point that all management are not fit to be associated with this club. But if we win the next two and sign 3 players or more, the complexion changes.
     
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  19. lady-eleanor

    lady-eleanor Well-Known Member

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    Listened to Total Sport last night and John Anderson couldn't believe Pardew's comments and wondered had they been watching the same game.
    JK is rubbing off on Pardew who is becoming a joke.
     
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  20. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    There is clearly and I mean CLEARLY a problem with Pardew.

    His body language is totally different to that when he first came to the club.

    Its obvious he is being dropped in the **** by Ashley.

    How can Pardew manage properly with an idiot like JK above him. Its a farse that in all honesty and I do feel a bit sorry for him.

    He has clearly lost the players and this is because they will, after working with him day in and day out, notice that his mind and body language is shafted.

    He is clearly clinging on to his job because he has too. Most managers with an ounce of credibility would most likely have reseigned after the rubbish he is having to put up with.

    This 7 year contract rubbish might actually be true.
     
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