Off Topic Over-population

Not some rant or #conspiracy. 8 minutes explaining why it's a myth and why the world is as it is.
100% agree.

 

the original start off point is so off putting i am not giving 8 minutes of my time.

 

Way to go MITO shutting out any possible new ideas from entering your brain because of "appearances"
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He's a bit of a mad **** this lad, and I do actually disagree with one bit of it though.

But he's bang on about most of it.

 

Why should I care about the opinion of someone who thinks it's a good idea to wear a bluetooth headset in a youtube video?

 

I think yer man is a bit of a douche myself mate I also think some of the **** he talks about is nuts, but every now and then he hits the mark.

I agree that all kids should grow up being taught philosophy and logic, the world is sadly lacking in both.
I agree on his points about pseudo state education and well, literally propaganda programming. It's forced on us, even if you have teaching degrees and degrees in the subjects of maths ect you are not allowed teach your own kids and in rare circumstances where that is permitted, the kids have to take a "State devised test" which is nonsense.

But over population, is a myth.

An analogy, you have 5 kids and a wife and a 6 bedroom house, but you consume 90% of the resources in the home, and take 4 bedrooms for yourself.

The house will be overpopulated with only 10% of the resources and for your wife and 5 kids, it's not over-populated for you, the one who has grabbed up most of the available room and resources, but it is for the other 6 people in the house that have to share the 2 remaining bedrooms and the 10% of resources left to them.

That's pretty much what is happening in the world today

 

I did want you to summarise cos I just could'nt look a tthat lad.

In the end............... who knows... I don't know whats a good fair population for this planet.

I think the analogy is based on resources available being hogged by the few which sounds fair enough.

 

I reckon double what we have easily. We throw out enough food per month globally to probably feed another few billion people.

Pollution is one argument I heard made as "proof" of over population.

But really we do know that consumerism drives pollution not population. Take China, it's not polluted because of their population number, look at the size of the place.
Our need in western economics for the cheap labour and cheap gadgets and such is exactly what created the pollution they have and the government there didn't and doesn't spend on the tech and advancements enough to deal with it.
They give out masks in stead.

Also, even take simple farm produce, Ireland ships beef around the world and imports the same amount from Germany or elsehwere, all that transport and so on, (which should even piss off the IPCC ironically but it's a fraud anyway) is pollution created for a buck to be made. Ireland can just eat it's own meat, it's economics for profits for corps.

You'll find that many countries export almost as much as they import of the same products. That creates immense pollution, not population. All for the sake of "trade" but you and i don't make **** out of this "trade" anyways.

It's one reason why I often thingk the world is NUTS!

 

the whole of china is not, no but its policy and burning coal that's polluted bejing but then they are building masses of nuclear plants to rectify.

I agree that cheap iphones is a major driver of global trade. it is stupid to be building stuff all in china to ship to us.

 

Nuclear power is an answer to energy issues, albeit an outdated one and the pollution though less overall is around for far far longer, at some point you reach critical mass
Fukushima is also another stark warning.

We are working on lots of different options like ITER for example.

Solar, no one can profit from that so it's a no go, and you are not even allowed use the solar power in Spain without state authorisation and a tax, they literally have solar police, and hand out millions in fines to any company that illegally uses solar power NUTS! They have a solar panel levy you must repeatedly pay!!
Who would lobby for such laws? The energy companies of course as well as the EU forcing Spain to do this.

So, water is taxed, air is taxed and the sun is taxed in Spain

Yet another mockery of the Global warming scam as energy from solar which does produce miniscule carbon emissions is absorbed without generating the heat that would normally be generated by the sun hitting your roof and heating up, panels remain relatively cool the way plan leaves stay cool in sunlight.
A small patch of Saudi arabia would be enough to supply global demand in energy, granted storage and distribution are problems to be solved, but they would be easily achieveable, if it was desired.


Texas has enough to house the global population with approx 90 square meters per person, obviously this is not practical for obvious reasons like waste food roads ect ect. But we are talking Texas after all. A patch on the planet. That's without even getting into the vast swathes of land that can be reclaimed from the oceans. A small example is the islands, whole islands Dubai is creating in the ocean to sell off to mega wealthy people.

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But obviously, you need to be one of those who are grabbing everything up in the first place anyway in order be able to buy yourself one of these.

It's just an example of ingenuity overcoming problems for money instead of for actual benefit.

 

What a ridiculous argument.

Texas is massive so they can all live there, or the Arabs have built on the sea, so it's not a ****ing problem

The main problem caused by over population is meeting their food needs, in areas of the globe that struggle to produce enough crops to feed themselves currently, let alone if the population continued to grow exponentially.

Talking about over population on solely a global basis, is a complete over simplification of a very complex issue.

 

Agenda 21 will ensure the population doesn't rise much more and will eventually see the population drop.

 

Is about sqeezing all of us into cities while the wealthy live on endless pristine estates with no pesky poor to bother them
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It is an offician UN document tho, a pretty ****ng scary one tho if you listen to the rambings of Bill gates and Ted Turner and Prince philip, who all think there is far too many of us.

Some of these twats are talking 500 million population.

I guess what is scary is the Gates foundation funds almost all of the WHO's money and they do in fact call the shots and set WHO agenda, the Gates being famous "family planning" types

 

I know sisu is still pretending to have me on ignore so I will just put my thoughts out there for all. Is it really such a bad thing to have a goal of a population level that is ecologicaly, financially and socially sustainable?

 

I guess the question could be.. are there too many people, or just too many ****s ****ing it up for the rest?