Maggie f**ing Thatcher started this man made global warming (called Climate change when the world stopped warming) hoax to f** the miners and take Britain on to nukes. So she pissed money into the CO2 is bad mmmkay (even though nature produces 20-40 times more than man's worst case scenario) and guess where she put it, The Hadley centre and East Anglia, Maggie dug up a disproved report from 1896. These two universities now at the epicentre of the UN Climate bollocks knowingly took part in a fraud and it's now a global fraud. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...argaret-thatcher-godmother-of-global-warming/ It's gonna get colder biatches. Still f**ing us from the grave
Even the US hawks who spent years denying the planet was warming now admit they were wrong. Their fallback position was that it is not as a result of human activity,and that's bullshit too.
^ this Sisu the evidence that global warming is actually happening is now irrefutable. However, the extent to which man is actually affecting it is up for debate.
I'm willing to blame Thatcher for a lot of things ( I bet she's put the mockers on LFC from her private pit in Hell for us celebrating when she snuffed it) but the global warming "conspiracy" ain't of of 'em. As mentioned above, the evidence is almost universally accepted, but there'll always be a few mavericks who think they've something to gain from denying it. Of course, any ecosystem is in a constant state of flux, and how much is down to us and how much is just natural change is difficult to assess. However, if there's the smallest chance that our behaviour is contributing to a possible catastrophe, then it would be idiocy to refuse to see that possibility and not do all we can to reduce the impact of our actions. Unfortunately, idiocy is not a rare commodity amongst humanity.
The world has been warming up since the last ice age ended, nothing we can do about it except maybe speed it up a bit.
We have so little data to work with that to claim that the sole cause is man-made is a gross over-statement. We do know that the Earth has been in continual change. What we don't know is if those changes have been cyclical. Perhaps the biggest problem that we face is being able to accurately predict what the effects of those changes will be in good enough time to take defensive measures. Along side that, I have become more and more suspicious of the continuing development of a Climate Change Industry which having escaped the lab and lecture hall is now running rampant through our economies.
Regardless of global warming, it is an indisputably good thing to evolve harvesting of energy away from burning fossil fuels and into "green" technologies. Many other good things come out of it: improved air quality, renewability, sustainability, technological progress, and decreased economical and political dependence on those crazy f*ckers in Russia and Middle east. So: A big thumbs up to the green revolution! In this case, the end justifies the (global warming propaganda) means.
During mans most polluting era between 50's to 70's global temps actually fell , the climate change is all part of the earths natural climate cycle thought to be over a 200,000 year cycle partly due to the earth wobbling on it's axis.It's all about taxes ,if they wanted to have cleaner renewal energy why don't they invest in tidal and wave power? Earth mostly covered by water.If they had invested in water instead of nuclear we would be a much cleaner and safer world.
Funny you should mention investment in tidal power. Look at http://atlantisresourcesltd.com/projects/test-sites/emec.html for the work being done here in the UK and one of my projects OpenHydro. Big Hydropower companies are now investing in these projects and once Alstom, Andritz and Siemens get into this area then you canbe sure it is viable and will make them money.
very sensible statement..... but there's no propaganda.... its happening. so when you are seeing peoeple flooded out of many countires within the next ten years think baout how you didn't beleive it
Fully agree. It doesn't matter if there's any doubt about the global warming trend, we can't afford to take the risk. What we do about it is open to debate, that we should be doing something about it should not be.
I feel you on the suspicion Dave. Between $22 and $27 billion per year is put into the man made climate campaign. would you believe most of that goes to media... Al Gore's electricity and gas bill for a year is $30.000 Irony is built in to man made climate change it seems. The US just signed a deal with China which essentially says China can go as high as they like on emisions until 2030. China has pledged to "peak" emissions by 2030!!! in other words they have till 2030 to crank up the CO2 as high as they can and that will be their "peak" that it cannot surpass?! But I thought Climate change was happening NOW? That we needed to act now? Yet China, one of if not the world's worst polluter has been granted permission essentially to increase CO2 emissions for another 15+ years?!?!?!? That makes absolutely no logical sense given what the IPCC are saying. Meanwhile Fukushima.. leaking cesium for several years into the pacific is not even a footnote in any of this?! Everything I said is factual including the fact nature produces 20 to 40 times our worst case scenario. You see "Climate change" is the measure of Man's CO2 input into the system, they cleverly separated Man made and natural, because Natural CO2 emissions come under the description Climate viariables, not climate change. This essentially is a means to exclude natural sources, termites for example alone cause 10 times what we produce. Anyone remember Climate gate 1 and 2? Caught fudging the numbers and excluding data, caught red handed!! The 97% agree was a fabrication, cherry picked data. The minority report of over 700 scientists the libtards like to claim was Oil's influence? Well the truth was it was discounted because the Climatards claimed most of those were "not climate scientists" and did not claim they were corrupted. John Casey, formerly NASA JPL US Gov and now at Science and space dot com is a brilliant scientist with an impecable reputation (Al Gore called this guy a Pseudo scientist! - This is how the IPCC roll) and he and many others including many who have quit the IPCC or been pushed out for finding results to the contrary, are not claiming the IPCC are wrong, they are claiming and backing it up with sceince and geology, that the IPCC are actually perpetrating the biggest intentional fraud humanity has ever seen. The fact that 31000 scientists which include 9000 PhDs dissent is kept very quiet.
The US China Climate deal? "By 2030, China pledges to reach peak emissions of global greenhouse gases and also to increase its reliance on non-fossil fuels to 20 percent of its total energy. For its part, the United States committed to reducing its greenhouse gas emissions in 2025 by 26 percent to 28 percent from 2005 levels." Again the above is clear evidence that this "it's happening NOWNOWNOW!" is far from the reality. The words by far two biggest polluters of man made CO2 can piss out CO2 for another 15 years, and this is an agreement to do so, not set in stone, Bush and Kyoto springs to mind. There is no way the US will be 26% of 2005 levels, and it's clever wording because 26% of 2005 levels is probably only about 10% of today's levels of US emissions. Meaning 9 years of increases will be ignored.
What evidence? You are like years behind on your IPCC propaganda, it's now irrifutable the planet is cooling lad. No warming since 1998? Slight decrease. NOAA have shown in their recent charts, RECORD ice gains in the arctic and antarctic, as in the glaciers are recovering, and really a lot since 2012. Global temperature as decreased. It is a FACT, natural CO2 is 20 to 40 times that of man made. It is a fact CO2 increases follow temerature increases, over 300,000 years of Ice core data show this perfectly It is a fact the sea leves are not rising even anywhere near remotely as claimed by the IPCC predictions It is a fact that the IPCC chopped off the last bit of their data showing CO2 spiking and temperature slightly dropping. It is a fact that since 1970s the earth has warmed .36 degrees in total. It is a fact that the IPCC have got every single prediction wrong with their 20 different mathematical models. The best the IPCC can do is 88% acuracy over 4 days, yes, weather prediction, EVERY single long term prediction has been not only wrong but way off the mark US this November has broken over 1000 individual cold records. RHC is a scientist, lets ask him, if you have a model based on mathematical computations and the results are all wrong, what conclusions do you come to regarding your models and maths? They they are bollocks? There are now 40 different excuses as to why they got it wrong (temp going down not up)... but not that they were wrong, they just failed to account for a plethora of things.. but weren't actually wrong it seems So forgive me for wondering when you talk about warming when the planet is 100% on a downward temperature slide as we speak. This is not even refuted any more. No one with any sort of understanding of this says we do not contribute, we are producing emissions, therefor we are an input into the system, but the effect we are claimed to be having is utter nonsense.
The earth had at some points between 2000 and 4000 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere, during glacial periods.. this just shows the joke that is "CO2 drives temperature" I guess there is nothing you can do to convince a libtard, you can show them all the data charts and scientific reports you want but it won't matter. They just won't beleive it because their BA in Art tells them differently. Apparently even the fact that Man made global warming was an intentional fraud by Thatcher to kill the coal unions and dependence on coal, a proven fraud, is not enough for some people Somehow this fraud has become a reality, which goes to show Goebbels was right, keep repeating a lie and it eventually becomes truth
Grow up Tobes! What a very childish post. I was taking your points a little further and nowhere did I even attempt to attribute anything to you. So pick up your dummy and stick your face-palm to it!
