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OT - Teacher Stabbed to Death

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  1. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member
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    Not in the USA but in Leeds. What the hell is happening in this country?


    A teenage boy has been arrested after a female teacher died following a stabbing at a high school in Leeds.

    Police say the 15-year-old is being held in connection with the attack at Corpus Christi Catholic College.

    Officers were called to the secondary school at 11.48am after they were contacted by the ambulance service following a report a member of staff had been stabbed.

    The woman was taken to hospital for treatment but was subsequently pronounced dead.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1250872/teacher-stabbed-to-death-at-leeds-school
     
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  2. Tring QPR

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    Apparently lessons are still carrying on !!! Regarded as an individual incident ....
    Words fail me ....
     
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  3. Busy Being Headhunted

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    He is under 16 so he will be ok
    A few years being looked after in a young offenders institution at the tax payers expense
     
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  4. Busy Being Headhunted

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    only German and French this week
     
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  5. NorwayRanger

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    Shocking! The world is going down the ****ter.
     
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  6. Flyer

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    **** me, my female friend teaches in Leeds but I don't think its at that school.

    It doesn't surprise me, my mother was attacked by kids in Ireland more than once, my friend also taught kids and they went on a riot because they weren't allowed a snooker table.
    Its such a PC place that kids aren't allowed to be touched and a teacher was reprimanded for using the phrase "cheeky monkey" because once of the kids was a quarter black.

    I'd never do any job with kids these days, I think you have to be mad.
     
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  7. Busy Being Headhunted

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    To stab a male teacher would be shocking, but why would anybody even consider stabbing a female teacher.
     
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  8. Flyer

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    Simple, the gutless prick who did it might have been hurt if he tried it on a male teacher.
     
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  9. KooPeeArr

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    My mate was architect for a site in Nottingham next to a school where the kids used to abuse the builders, throw stuff at them and break in at night.

    If a builder so much as swore at the kids they'd be on a disciplinary.

    Society needs to reclaim control and ensure that children have the best chance of growing up right rather than believing anti-social behaviour comes with immunity.
     
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  10. Azmi

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    16? Bang the little bastard up for a decade.
     
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  11. Flyer

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    The kids used to threaten my mate with abuse allegations if he disciplined them, it just shows how scummy some of them are.
    "Give me detention and I'll tell the head you touched me".

    Sadly its the parents fault and it will get even worse now the internet acts as a baby sitter as well as the TV.
     
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  12. Bush Rhino

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    Awful news, thoughts with the victims family.
     
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  13. UTRs

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    Very sad news, not sure how to describe the way I feel about this, sad, angry and a whole lot of other words apart from shocked. I was only talking this Saturday just gone with my godson's mum about the primary school he used to go to two years back.

    It's not uncommon for the police to get called there once in about every fortnight to come and deal with unruly kid's, I'm talking about a Primary school FFS! This is a school in a so called middle class area in the suburbs of Reading.

    The question is who is to blame for kids being like this these days? Is it the parents, the PC brigade or just modern life with all this info at your fingertips to children at a very young age due to the Internet, TV etc.

    My thoughts go out to the family of the teacher also the poor kids who will be traumatise by seeing this happen in there very own classroom.
     
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  14. Sooperhoop

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    I was a school governor in the 1990s and the seeds of the current state of our schools were well sown at that time. The school was a typical inner-city primary in the middle of a 'sink estate' and my missus still works there as she has done for 30 years. The 'inclusive' education championed by Labour has much to answer for as there are some serious headbangers now included in mainstream education who spend the majority of the day disrupting lessons and dragging everyone down at the same time.

    My wife teaches in a Year 4 Class and spends so much of her day dealing with squabbles started by the same handful of disruptive pupils who then get 'indulged' by senior leadership instead of being excluded. In my time as a governor we'd read reports from education psychologists which were making every excuse under the sun for each pupil who was referred to them. ADHD, ODD and a myriad of conditions were 'diagnosed' and we had one of these 'experts' at a governor training day telling us how these 'extremely disadvantaged' children required a 'reinforcing' of their relationships with adults that couldn't include anything confrontational. He didn't take kindly to my sarcasm when I said most of them suffered from LFBS, which I told him was Little F*cking Bastard Syndrome', curable by a bit of discipline as it was in the 60s.

    The bottom line is this reliance on 'experts' has produced a very vested interest, our school back in the 90s was being charged £400 per pupil for a one day assessment referral and a further £300 for each follow-up appointment. Most children referred had six visits per term. There were at least eight referrals in the last year I was a governor and I know there is now a unit operating in the school with several staff. These experts will always look after their own interests and so children will always have professional excuse-makers on their side, it's the goose that's laid the golden egg for them. No doubt today's incident will reveal all sorts of things that will be a direct result of the offender's troubled upbringing. The only surprise is this hasn't happened a lot more often...
     
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  15. UTRs

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    Don't start me off on the OCD, ADHD and all that cr*p. These conditions have always been around but we have only recently (historically) found them out and been made aware of them. The difference is years back kids with these conditions used to get the same treatment as any other kid being disruptive or naughty, a good old fashioned thing called discipline.
     
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  16. Hoops Eternal

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    This is absolutely disgraceful, don't tell me the lad didn't know what he was doing, of course he did. Lock him up and throw away the key, but of course that won't happen, society to blame as usual!
    The do-gooders and so called experts will blame everyone and everything except the person responsible. There will be investigations and enquiries but ultimately nothing will happen, and in a few months time we will be talking about the latest stabbing!
    Agree with UTR's, lack of discipline, unfortunately teachers have no power these days to keep the kids in check
     
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  17. Flyer

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    What's the law here, can he be convicted, spend 2 years in a young offenders place and then 10 years in a normal prison?

    I think teenagers should be tried the same as adults but spend the start of their sentence in a young offenders institution and then carry over into prison if necessary.
     
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  18. Queenslander!!

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    A very sad OP and the main reason I left the UK for Aus.
    Im not saying it doesnt go on over here but it is MUCH less frequent. If a kid or teacher etc get attacked it makes the national news because it is so rare.

    When i lived back in the UK (HOME) my kids were slowly going down that road, not to the extreme, but i could see all the outside influences starting to take a grip.
    Since moving, I received my eldest sons reportt card yesterday and EVERY Lesson said :Behaviour : Very good Effort Excellent.

    He didnt achieve all the top grades he wanted, but i can honestly ask no more of him. Made me very proud TBH.

    I am 100% certain that his school report in the UK would not have said the same.

    I know we can blame the parents but the peer groups have just as much of an influence. i think I finally got something right and can only feel sorry for those trapped in the system i left behind

    Being a teacher is a thankless task at best. All my relations are headmaster / Mistreses (or were) and i was due to be a PE teacher. Dodged a bullet there it think <ok>

    RIP to the teacher
     
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  19. Didley Squat

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    Excellent post 'Sooper' and bang on with your assessment.
    Problem is that there are too many from the Bleeding Heart Society who feed off and or need to justify their positions, hence making additional /continual changes to another bureaucratic line of government drivel, for which we must to sift through. In doing so, most of us individuals tend to give up and put it in the 'too hard' basket, which is just what they want.

    My condolences to the teachers' family.
     
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  20. GoldhawkRoad

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    Really interesting post, Sooper, and sadly, I think your assessment is spot on. Good discipline is an essential platform for learning - lose it and all the kids lose out.

    Having the anomaly of private and state schooling as we do in this country is far from satisfactory. I'd always hoped that standards in all state schools would rise to that of private schools, so parents' desire to send their kids to the expensive and private schools disappeared. However, because of the breakdown of discipline in many (though admittedly not all) state schools, the gap between private and state has never been greater.
     
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